WikiChristian talk:Community Portal

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I have some information on the book of Hebrews that I would like to contribute. Could that page be unprotected so that I can add the info? Cpark 08:37, 4 Feb 2005 (PST)

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Okay, I've unprotected the main index page for Hebrews (and for all the other books of the Bible)

songs and lyrics

I'm not sure where to post this info, so I thought that it'd fit here. I'm a bit of a perfectionist when it comes to wikis, so I have some ideas regarding the layout of songs. Currently each song has a separate page linking to its lyrics instead of just writing a heading and let the lyrics be underneath. Linking means that there will be a very large amount of pages as soon as we start to really grow, and it might be confusing for especially new users. I also have to object against the same behaviour being practised when it comes to, for example the page about Matt Redman. Can't his info and/or bio reside in that page instead of the current About Matt Redman.

Back to songs. Right now all songs have the name in the page title, meaning that it might be a little difficult to see what pages are songs, what pages are articles and so on. On another wiki wer'e using namespaces to make things easier. That means that songs have the page prefix Song: and that it is separately searchable. Free Bible Dictionary does already follow that naming scheme, and it works pretty well to keep it from cluttering, doesn't it?

Feel free to comment on my ideas. Etnoy 02:08, 18 Mar 2005 (PST)

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Hi, Regarding the issue of lyrics, Graham grove is doing that wonderful work and you can go ahead and discuss any ideas for improvement with him. It is a matter of style and some times planning for the growth in future. As long as the pages have proper links, it may not be confusing but I think some of the pages that have just one page link can be made part of other pages. Discuss the issue with Graham grove and agree on a plan or agree to disagree.

Thanks, Prab

copying articles from wikipedia

There seem to be tons of articles on wikipedia for Christian subjects. Are there any problems in copying these over to here? Any legal ramifications or anything?

No, all wikipedia's content is licensed under GNU FDL and can feeely redistributed as long as you say the source.

Any easy way to port them over here? I'm thinking mainly of the historic and factual entries such as the ones on all the different denominations.

Yes, it's perfectly legal to copy any or every wikipedia article -- see the GNU FDL for details, and OpenFacts for examples of other web sites doing just that. However, is copying -- or more accurately, forking -- really a good idea? I think that for historical facts where we think Wikipedia has gotten it right, we might as well leave it there and just link to it. Obviously I'm a big fan of http://CommunityWiki.org/ConsolidateInformation . I'm willing to grant that it may be a good idea for *some* articles to be copied over, to gain http://CommunityWiki.org/ProductiveWikiOverlap . But not *every* article on "Christian subjects". --DavidCary 22:10, 15 Apr 2005 (PDT)

I'd be pretty interested in copying at least some of the material over. There are some important fundamental sections that could be used as fillers for now, until local editors create something better. --Mustaphile 22:29, 4 May 2005 (PDT)

• Nice find with CommunityWiki. Have y'all considered contributing to Wikisource for EBD, KJV Concordance, Smith's, etc? I think this would be a great way to consolidate "wiki" information. I've mentioned this on TheoWiki EBD Wikisource discussion and Talk:Easton's_Bible_Dictionary. --J. J. 11:08, 10 May 2005 (PDT)

Layout of some of the pages

Hi all. I've recently found this wiki after spending a lot of my time on Wikipedia. I must say that some of the ways that articles have been created here with links leading to pages with more links, leading to pages with more links has really grated with my wikipedia sensibilities. I find it frustrating to be constantly narrowing the focus of my choices each time, when what I really want to do is just get the article(any article in fact sometimes, as often times I reach the end and there is nothing there). I have been looking for any discussion on a styleguide, but have not found anything. I think it might be a worthwile discussion to have. --Mustaphile 22:26, 4 May 2005 (PDT)

Style guide for song articles

I've recently begun re-arranging the way that songs are entered into the Wiki. Being the type of Wiki editor that I am, I tend to go all guns blazing into the task. I wonder whether we should at least be having some discussion on the subject though, as I don't want to be too aggressive in how I go about editing other peoples work. I'm going to start a page to talk about styleguides for song entries on WikiChristian:Song styleguide. I hope others will participate on the discussion on this at the talk page concerned at WikiChristian talk:Song styleguide --Mustaphile 08:28, 8 May 2005 (PDT)