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When my love for Christ grows weak

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When my love for Christ grows weak

When for deeper faith I seek

Then in thought I go to thee

Garden of Gesthemene

There I walk amid the shade

Where the dwindling twilight fades

See the friendless lonely one

Weeping praying all alone

When my love for men grows weak

When for stronger faith I seek

Hill of Calvary I go

To your scenes of fear and wo

There I turn to life again

Learning all the worth of pain

Learning all the might that lies

In a full self sacrifice

And I turn with firmer faith

To Christ who vanquished pain and death

And to Christ enthroned above

Raise a song of selfless love

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Text:God's Word to Women:Lesson 77

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== SEX BIAS INFLUENCES TRANSLATORS.==

616. It is well known that when a man gets lost on the prairie, he begins to go round in a circle; it is suggested that one side (the right, generally), being stronger than the other, he pulls unconsciously with greater strength upon the corresponding guiding rein of his horse. Just so does the translator; he pulls unconsciously on the strong side of preconception or self-interest. This may not be intended, but it is none the less inevitable to the uninspired hand. For this reason, neither class nor sex should have an exclusive right to set forth the meaning of the original text. It is notorious that the Samaritan Hebrew text, even, has been manipulated to a considerable extent to suit the Samaritan prejudices, so that that manuscript must be corrected by comparison with others before it can be trusted on points that involve Samaritan interests. The Alexandrian, or Septuagint version, shows traces of an attempt to meet the prejudices of Egyptians. What wonder that all versions, having for all time been made by men, should disclose the fact that, on the woman question, they all travel more or less in a circle, in accordance with sex bias, hindering the freedom and progress of women, since (in times past more than at present), the self interest of man led him to suppose that woman served God best as his own undeveloped subordinate?

617. Let us first note two cases, brought to light by the Revision Committee, by way of illustration of sex bias. In Genesis 20, we read the story of the exposure of Sarah, at Abraham’s request, in Abimelech’s harem (?). When the king discovered that she was a married woman (through the reproof of God), he sent for Abraham, reproved him, and then paid a thousand pieces of silver to him for the injury done her good name. The version of 1611 (A.V.) and the version of 1884 construe the language spoken by the king on this occasion quite differently.
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A.V. ¾“He is to thee a covering of the eyes, unto all that are with thee;”
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R.V.¾ “It[3] is to thee for a covering of the eyes, to all that are with thee;”
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A.V. ¾ “and with all other: thus she was reproved;”
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R.V.¾ “and in respect of all thou are righted;”
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Abimelech did this so that all would understand that the wrong was his not Sarah’s; and she would be righted before all and ashamed before none, and would not need to cover her eyes (face) for shame. So the R.V.indicates; but the A.V. makes the blame fall upon Sarah, who is “reproved.” Abraham was no “covering to her eyes,”¾he was the primal cause of her shame and humiliation. It would seem as though the rendering of the A.V. was an attempt to fortify the supposed teaching of Paul that women should go veiled.

618. Another passage, bound to be corrected apace with the improvement of woman’s social position, is Leviticus 19:20. This relates to wrong relations with a female slave, who is, “not at all redeemed, nor freedom given her.” The R.V.shows progress here toward the light, which is yet obscured, however. The A.V. says:¾She shall be scourged . . . and he shall bring his offering.” The R.V.says: “They shall be punished . . . and he shall bring,” etc. But the literal sense is, “There shall be inquisition . . . and he shall bring.” That is, there shall be rigid inquiry made, and when it is ascertained that she is not in a state of freedom at all, then only he shall bring the offering.[2]

619. Luther once said: “No gown worse becomes a woman than to be wise.” Luther only held the prevailing views of his day as regards women. Such men could not easily perceive when Scripture expressed a different thought on the subject. Proverbs 14:1 says, in Hebrew, “The wisdom of woman buildeth her house,” but not being able to appreciate the advantages of female education, men rendered it: “Every wise woman buildeth her house,” that is, the woman who devotes herself to housewifely duties is pronounced “wise.” But this is not the thought; rather, wisdom itself, in woman, will build her own (not her husband’s) house,¾ elevate her to a place of honor. Every time there has been an opportunity for the use of option in translation, use has been made of that option, by this or that man of learning, to build up one sex and to depreciate the other, and so the result, through the ages, has been cumulative, and that without actual intention.

620. Again, Cha-kam HEB “wise,” occurs (on a hasty count) 130 times in the Hebrew Bible. It is invariably translated “wise” excepting in the following places: in 2 Samuel 13:3 “subtil;” and in 10 instances “cunning,” when used of skilful workmen, 1 Chronicles 22:15; 2 Chronicles 2:7 (twice); 13, and 14 (twice); Isaiah 3:3; 40:20; Jeremiah 10:9. But in Jeremiah 9:17 we read in our English, “Thus saith the Lord of hosts, Consider ye, and call for the mourning women, that they may come; and send for cunning women that they may come, and let them make hast and take up a wailing for us,” etc. The reference is to the low moral tone prevailing at Jerusalem, which threatened the overthrow of the city. Now here, surely, there is no reference to skilful workmanship on the part of women, and moreover the A.V. leaves out the rather important article “the”¾see R.V.Here “the wise women” are called upon by Jehovah to show their interest and concern in matters of State,¾the moral corruptness of the city; and “the wise women” are further instructed to teach their daughters to be concerned about such matters,¾verse 20. Huldah (2 Kings. 22:14), admittedly the wisest prophet of the times, may have been still living at this very time.

621. I think we find another case of prejudiced translation in Isaiah 3:12. The word translated “children” in this verse in Isaiah, is a plural masculine participle of the verb “to glean,” “abuse,” “practice.” It is translated “glean” in Leviticus 19:10, Deuteronomy 24:21, Judges 20:45, and Jeremiah 6:9. The word has no translation such as “children” anywhere else in the Bible, and it occurs 21 times. Another word altogether is used for “children,” and “child,” in verses 4 and 5 of this same chapter; the sense seems to have been fixed by the supposed context, to correspond with “women.” As to the word translated “women”: Two words, without the rabbinical vowel “points,” are exactly alike. One is pronounced nosh-im and the other na-shim. In appearance the only difference is a slight mark under the first letter of the Hebrew word na-shim. The first word means “exactors;” the one with a vowel mark under the initial letter means “women.” The entire decision, therefore, as to whether the word means one or the other depends upon OPTION. Those who pointed the word, evidently thought the nation could sink no lower than to pass under women rulers, and then translated the word “children” to match it. Commentators frequently call attention to the alternate reading. See Adam Clarke on the passage. The Septuagint translates: “As for my people, tax-gatherers (praktores) glean them, and exactors (apaitountes) rule over them.”

622. There seems little in the context to support the translation “children” and “women.” But study the context as regards the other reading. After complaining of the “gleaners,” (that is, “tax-gatherers”) and “extortioners,” they are threatened in the following language: “The Lord standeth up to plead and standeth up to judge the people. The Lord will enter into judgement with the elders of His people, and the princes (“rulers,” masculine, not feminine gender), thereof for ye have eaten up the vineyard (the conduct of extortionate tax-gatherers), and the spoil of the poor is in your houses. What mean ye that ye crush (R. V.) my people, and grind the faces of the poor?” Because of this context, we believe that OPTION took the wrong turn when it decided to translate this verse as it stands in our English version; and that this translation would have had a strong showing up of its sophistries, had educated women been on the last Revision Committee.

These instances are trivial, when taken one by one, but many straws floating in one direction prove that the current runs that way strongly.

<center>(To be continued.)</center>
==Footnotes==
[1] Hebrew has no word for “it,” which must be represented by either “he” or “she.”
[2] “Your opinion that the sentence, ‘they shall be punished’ of the R.V.is erroneous, is in my judgement very correct. You should, however, add that the Syriac Version has . . . (Syriac words) which means precisely, ‘there shall be inquisition.’ ”

==See Also==
[[God's Word to Women]] |
[[God's Word to Women Table of Contents]] |
[[Foreword to the 1943 Edition]] |
[[Foreword to the 2005 Edition]] |
[[Author's Note]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 1 | Lesson 1]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 2 | Lesson 2]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 3 | Lesson 3]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 4 | Lesson 4]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 5 | Lesson 5]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 6 | Lesson 6]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 7 | Lesson 7]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 8 | Lesson 8]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 9 | Lesson 9]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 10 | Lesson 10]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 11 | Lesson 11]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 12 | Lesson 12]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 13 | Lesson 13]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 14 | Lesson 14]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 15 | Lesson 15]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 16 | Lesson 16]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 17 | Lesson 17]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 18 | Lesson 18]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 19 | Lesson 19]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 20 | Lesson 20]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 21 | Lesson 21]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 22 | Lesson 22]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 23 | Lesson 23]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 24 | Lesson 24]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 25 | Lesson 25]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 26 | Lesson 26]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 27 | Lesson 27]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 28 | Lesson 28]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 29 | Lesson 29]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 30 | Lesson 30]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 31 | Lesson 31]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 32 | Lesson 32]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 33 | Lesson 33]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 34 | Lesson 34]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 35 | Lesson 35]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 36 | Lesson 36]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 37 | Lesson 37]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 38 | Lesson 38]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 39 | Lesson 39]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 40 | Lesson 40]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 41 | Lesson 41]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 42 | Lesson 42]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 43 | Lesson 43]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 44 | Lesson 44]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 45 | Lesson 45]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 46 | Lesson 46]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 47 | Lesson 47]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 48 | Lesson 48]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 49 | Lesson 49]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 50 | Lesson 50]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 51 | Lesson 51]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 52 | Lesson 52]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 53 | Lesson 53]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 54 | Lesson 54]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 55 | Lesson 55]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 56 | Lesson 56]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 57 | Lesson 57]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 58 | Lesson 58]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 59 | Lesson 59]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 60 | Lesson 60]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 61 | Lesson 61]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 62 | Lesson 62]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 63 | Lesson 63]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 64 | Lesson 64]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 65 | Lesson 65]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 66 | Lesson 66]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 67 | Lesson 67]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 68 | Lesson 68]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 69 | Lesson 69]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 70 | Lesson 70]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 71 | Lesson 71]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 72 | Lesson 72]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 73 | Lesson 73]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 74 | Lesson 74]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 75 | Lesson 75]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 76 | Lesson 76]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 77 | Lesson 77]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 78 | Lesson 78]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 79 | Lesson 79]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 80 | Lesson 80]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 81 | Lesson 81]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 82 | Lesson 82]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 83 | Lesson 83]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 84 | Lesson 84]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 85 | Lesson 85]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 86 | Lesson 86]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 87 | Lesson 87]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 88 | Lesson 88]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 89 | Lesson 89]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 90 | Lesson 90]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 91 | Lesson 91]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 92 | Lesson 92]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 93 | Lesson 93]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 94 | Lesson 94]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 95 | Lesson 95]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 96 | Lesson 96]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 97 | Lesson 97]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 98 | Lesson 98]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 99 | Lesson 99]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 100 | Lesson 100]] |
[[Index of Scripture Texts]] |
[[Dictionary]]

Text:God's Word to Women:Lesson 52

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==WHAT IS MEEKNESS?==

396. Meekness has nothing whatever to do with the vices, cowardice and weakness. No one can be meek who is not of royal blood; hence the quality is little understood, and, for the most part, confounding it with weakness, it is taught to women and children and slaves, and despised in men. As truly as our humility has its source in our attitude towards GOD ALONE, so has the virtue of meekness. The first means loyalty to God ALONE as alone to be obeyed; the second means Loyalty to GOD ALONE, as our Judge and King.

397. To be humble and obey God alone will surely bring tribulation to any human being, sooner or later. It is only a question of time, and we will discover that some human law contravenes God’s laws. We are often told that the days of persecution are past and ended. But why have they ended? Because man has concluded to accept man’s laws as God’s whole will for him. He argues that the laws of his country must be accorded unquestioning obedience; that the laws of a husband must be met by unquestioning obedience by the wife; but it is as true to-day as it ever was that “traditions,” i.e., man-made laws, ever “make void the commandments of God” at all inconvenient points, and it ever will be so.

398. Let a man or woman determine to wholly follow the Lord, and trouble brews for that person, and such will either get into tribulation, or affect a compromise to escape it. Now let us imagine such an one, who, like his Lord, gives uncompromising testimony, by word and deed, against all sham customs and wicket human legislation. Trouble follows, and now comes the opportunity for meekness. As the man determined to obey God ALONE, now must he allow God ALONE to defend him and avenge his wrongs, growing out of his obedience and loyalty. If the man do this, he is meek; if he turn to human means of defense or vengeance, he is not meek. Only those who know the King as Father, and have royal blood in their veins, are sufficiently “highborn” (because born of God) to endure the test. For this reason meekness is that one virtue which has little reward until the Millennial Age, excepting inward rest. (Matthew 11:29).

399. What means that silence of Jesus before human potentates? “Jesus held His peace,” is the record of His conduct before the Sanhedrin, Matt. 26:63. Yet He did answer at one point¾when He testified that He was the Christ, the Son of God (v. 64). A little later, Pilate asks Him, “Art thou the King of the Jews?” and He answers with a strong affirmative, but no other questions (Mark 15:2-5). Later, Jesus stands before Herod: “He questioned Him in many words; but He answered him nothing,” Luke 23:9. On one point He gives clear testimony, namely, He is the lawful King of the Jews, and the Son of the King of Kings; but He gives no testimony against His persecutors, nor in His own defense. His case has already been submitted to the Supremest Court of adjudication, and it is not within their power (John 19:11).

400. To Him there was but one kingdom, His Father’s. His royal blood, and sojourn in a land of which He was not a citizen, forbade His submitting His case to their courts. Not that He was antagonistic to human laws, executed by human rulers, for the children of the heavenly King,¾certainly not for the only begotten Son of that King. His royal blood was not to be overlooked.

Now does this conduct on His part show weakness or strength of character? There can be but one answer. This loyalty to a Royal Father on the part of Jesus Christ, both in His obedience to God alone, and appeal to God alone, is His crown of humility and meekness. Isaiah described it in the words, “As a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so He openeth not His mouth” (53:7). This meekness is displayed in the conduct of Moses, in that incident which sets him forth as meek above all the men upon the face of the earth,” Here we have, as Dr. Lange has said, “An intimation that he endured in silence and committed his justification to God.” And God at once took up Moses’ defense (Numbers 12).

401. As Christ’s conduct in the court of human potentates, so was His manner towards common men: “Who, when He was reviled, reviled not again; when He suffered, He threatened not; but committed Himself to Him [God] that judgeth righteously,” 1 Peter 2:23. He recognized but one King; He knew but one Judge; He knew but one Enforcer of law, just as He knew but one law (the Word of God) to be enforced; and God was His own interpreter and enforcer of His law.

402. It requires the utmost balance of Christian character to maintain such an attitude as this towards God and towards man; on the one hand, towards the Christian’s King; on the other, towards the rule founded upon military power for this world. The Apostles tell us, “Submit yourselves . . . to the king . . . unto governors,” (1 Peter 2:13, 14;) “Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers,” and “Put them in mind to be subject to principalities and powers” (Romans 13:1; Titus 3:1). Christ enforced the same lesson, Matthew 5:41, by saying that when compelled to go one mile we must be ready to go two; if sued at court and forced to give his coat to an oppressor, the oppressed must not retaliate, but give his overcoat also. To do this for love’s sake, for harmony’s sake and for Christ’s sake, and yet to recognize always the limitations that God’s law place upon man-made laws, and obey first the higher law,¾this is a narrow path to tread. And yet we know He trod it. We must follow in His footsteps.

403. He was questioned once in order to determine His attitude towards human governments, and He disclosed it at once. He merely drew a dividing line, as it were, between what is honest and what is dishonest; “Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar’s; and unto God the things that are God’s” (Matthew 22:15-22). For the privilege of using Caesar’s money, without which they could not purchase the necessaries of life, pay an equivalent to Caesar, and no more.[1] But let that sense of obligation cease when Caesar is paid; and let the recognition of that debt involve no disloyalty to the ONE KING¾GOD, in whose image we stand, in Christ Jesus. No dynamite of human invention can ever embosom within itself such revolutionary powers as “meekness” such as this. An intangible spiritual force, it is utterly baffling to crude cannon and rifle of human government, while it always puts the enemy in the wrong, even in his own estimation. Unregenerate man is always an angered and malicious coward in the presence of such a virtue. No wonder the Bible assures us that “the meek shall inherit the earth,” in the age to come.

404. No fear but God will “avenge His own elect” who trust Him to right their wrongs. Christ so trusted, while His enemies cried. “His blood be upon us, and upon our children.” And so it was, one of their own Jewish historians being the witness. Josephus tell us that within less than forty years after Christ’s death, the streets of Jerusalem, in siege, were impassable by reason of the dead, while the palaces of Jerusalem were packed from floor to ceiling with corpses. At the same time, as many Jews hung on crosses outside the city, as wood could be found on which to impale them. What wonder that, seeing the approaching avenging of His innocent death, Jesus prayed for His tormentors, and wept over the doomed city, crying, “O that thou hadst known, even thou, at least in this thy day, the things that belong unto thy peace?” (Luke 19:42, R. V.).

==Footnote==
[1] The earliest Christians refused absolutely to fight for Rome. A Lutheran pastor has lately expressed what amount of compensation the Kaiser requires of his subjects, in these words: “The crime of the nation against the individual, is not that it demands his sacrifices against his will, but that it claims a life of eternal significance for ends that have no eternal value.”

==See Also==
[[God's Word to Women]] |
[[God's Word to Women Table of Contents]] |
[[Foreword to the 1943 Edition]] |
[[Foreword to the 2005 Edition]] |
[[Author's Note]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 1 | Lesson 1]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 2 | Lesson 2]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 3 | Lesson 3]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 4 | Lesson 4]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 5 | Lesson 5]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 6 | Lesson 6]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 7 | Lesson 7]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 8 | Lesson 8]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 9 | Lesson 9]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 10 | Lesson 10]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 11 | Lesson 11]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 12 | Lesson 12]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 13 | Lesson 13]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 14 | Lesson 14]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 15 | Lesson 15]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 16 | Lesson 16]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 17 | Lesson 17]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 18 | Lesson 18]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 19 | Lesson 19]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 20 | Lesson 20]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 21 | Lesson 21]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 22 | Lesson 22]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 23 | Lesson 23]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 24 | Lesson 24]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 25 | Lesson 25]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 26 | Lesson 26]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 27 | Lesson 27]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 28 | Lesson 28]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 29 | Lesson 29]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 30 | Lesson 30]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 31 | Lesson 31]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 32 | Lesson 32]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 33 | Lesson 33]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 34 | Lesson 34]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 35 | Lesson 35]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 36 | Lesson 36]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 37 | Lesson 37]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 38 | Lesson 38]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 39 | Lesson 39]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 40 | Lesson 40]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 41 | Lesson 41]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 42 | Lesson 42]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 43 | Lesson 43]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 44 | Lesson 44]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 45 | Lesson 45]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 46 | Lesson 46]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 47 | Lesson 47]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 48 | Lesson 48]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 49 | Lesson 49]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 50 | Lesson 50]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 51 | Lesson 51]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 52 | Lesson 52]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 53 | Lesson 53]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 54 | Lesson 54]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 55 | Lesson 55]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 56 | Lesson 56]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 57 | Lesson 57]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 58 | Lesson 58]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 59 | Lesson 59]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 60 | Lesson 60]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 61 | Lesson 61]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 62 | Lesson 62]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 63 | Lesson 63]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 64 | Lesson 64]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 65 | Lesson 65]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 66 | Lesson 66]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 67 | Lesson 67]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 68 | Lesson 68]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 69 | Lesson 69]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 70 | Lesson 70]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 71 | Lesson 71]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 72 | Lesson 72]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 73 | Lesson 73]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 74 | Lesson 74]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 75 | Lesson 75]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 76 | Lesson 76]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 77 | Lesson 77]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 78 | Lesson 78]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 79 | Lesson 79]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 80 | Lesson 80]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 81 | Lesson 81]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 82 | Lesson 82]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 83 | Lesson 83]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 84 | Lesson 84]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 85 | Lesson 85]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 86 | Lesson 86]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 87 | Lesson 87]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 88 | Lesson 88]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 89 | Lesson 89]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 90 | Lesson 90]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 91 | Lesson 91]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 92 | Lesson 92]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 93 | Lesson 93]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 94 | Lesson 94]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 95 | Lesson 95]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 96 | Lesson 96]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 97 | Lesson 97]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 98 | Lesson 98]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 99 | Lesson 99]] |
[[God's Word to Women Lesson 100 | Lesson 100]] |
[[Index of Scripture Texts]] |
[[Dictionary]]

Missing Person (chords)

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<pre>
[Guitar 1: Electric w/Clean Tone]

Riff 1:

E|-------------------------------------------------|
B|--6-5-6-5-6-5-6-5-6-5-6-5-6-5-6-5-6-5-3-5-3-5-3--|
G|--7-----------7-----------7---7---7-5---5---5-5--|
D|-------------------------------------------------|

Riff 2:

E|------------------------------------5-s-8--8--8--|
B|--6-5-6-5-6-5-6-5-6-5-6-5-6-5-6-5-6-5-s-8--8--8--|
G|--7-----------7-----------7---7---7-7-s10-10-10--|
D|------------------------------------7-s10-10-10--|
^Slow Tremolo^
Intro:

Riff 1, 2, 1, 1

Verse:

F2(no3) C2(no3)
Another question in me. One for the powers that be

F2(no3) Am
It's got me thrown and so I put on my poker face

F2(no3) C2(no3)
And try to figure it out. This undeniable doubt

F2(no3) Am
A common occurrance. Feeling so out of place

F2(no3) C2(no3)
Guarded and cynical now, can't help but wondering how

F2(no3) Am Dm
My heart evolved into a rock beating inside of me

F C2(no3) Am
So I reel such a stoic ordeal where's that feeling that I don't feel?

Chorus:

Fm C#maj7
There was a boy who had the faith to move a mountain

G# Cm
And like a child he would believe without a reason

Fm C#maj7
Without a trace, he disappeared into the void and

G# Cm C#maj7 C#2(no3)
I've been searchin' for that missing person

Verse 2: [Played Like Verse 1]

Under a lavender moon, so many thoughts consume me.

Who dimmed that glowing light that once burned so bright in me?

Is this a radical phase a problematical age

That keeps me running from all that I used to be?

Is there a way to return, is there a way to unlearn,

That carnal knowledge that's chipping away at my soul?

I've been gone too long will I ever find my way home?

Chorus 2: [Played Like Chorus 1]

There was a boy who had the faith to move a mountain

And like a child he would believe without a reason

Without a trace, he disappeared into the void and

I've been searchin' for that missing person

He used to want to try to walk the strait and narrow

He had a fire and he could feel it in the marrow

It's been a long time and I haven't seen him lately but

I've been searchin' for that missing person

C#maj7 G# C#maj7 G#
For that missing person For that missing person

Gm D#maj7 A# Dm Gm D#maj7 A# Dm
Ohh Ohh

Chorus 3:

Gm D#maj7
There was a boy who had the faith to move a mountain

A# Dm
And like a child he would believe without a reason

Gm D#maj7
Without a trace, he disappeared into the void and

A# Dm
I've been searchin'

Gm D#maj7
He used to want to try to walk the strait and narrow

A# Dm
He had a fire and he could feel it in the marrow

Gm D#maj7
It's been a long time and I haven't seen him lately but

A# Dm
I've been searchin' for that missing person

Riff 3:

E|--6-5-6-5-6-5-6-5-6-5-6-5-6-5-6-5-6-5-3-5-3-5-3--|
B|--8-----------8-----------8---8---8-6---6---6-6--|
G|-------------------------------------------------|
D|-------------------------------------------------|

[Riff 3 Four Times And Fade]

- Ohh

-Where are you, where are you
(Where are you) (Where are you)
Ohhh I've been searchin'

- For that person Ohhh
(where are you) (where are you)
-(Ohhh)

</pre>

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Go to [[Missing Person (song)]] contents page

Directory listing of churches around the world

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{{box2 |text=We are compiling a directory of all the church congregations in the world. Add churches in your area to this directory. Please be careful to not put too many details about the location of particular churches that may be under a repressive government or could otherwise face persecution due to a posting on this website.}}

''See also [[Places]]''

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{| width="100%" valign="top" id="toc"
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==== {{PAGENAME}} ====
|- valign="top"
| width="16%" | '''Africa'''
| width="16%" | '''Asia'''
| width="16%" | '''Australasia and the Pacific islands'''
| width="16%" | '''Europe'''
| width="16%" | '''North America'''
| width="16%" | '''South America'''
|- align="center" valign="top" 
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* [[Churches in Angola|Angola]]
* [[Churches in Benin|Benin]]
* [[Churches in Botswana|Botswana]]
* [[Churches in Burkina Faso|Burkina Faso]]
* [[Churches in Burundi|Burundi]]
* [[Churches in Cameroon|Cameroon]]
* [[Churches in Cape Verde|Cape Verde]]
* [[Churches in Central African Republic|Central African Republic]]
* [[Churches in Chad|Chad]]
* [[Churches in Comoros|Comoros]]
* [[Churches in Congo (Brazzaville)|Congo (Brazzaville)]]
* [[Churches in Congo (Kinshasa)|Congo (Kinshasa)]]
* [[Churches in Cote d'Ivoire|Cote d'Ivoire]]
* [[Churches in Djibouti|Djibouti]]
* [[Churches in Equatorial Guinea|Equatorial Guinea]]
* [[Churches in Eritrea|Eritrea]]
* [[Churches in Ethiopia|Ethiopia]]
* [[Churches in Gabon|Gabon]]
* [[Churches in Gambia|Gambia]]
* [[Churches in Ghana|Ghana]]
* [[Churches in Guinea|Guinea]]
* [[Churches in Guinea - Bissau|Guinea - Bissau]]
* [[Churches in Kenya|Kenya]]
* [[Churches in Lesotho|Lesotho]]
* [[Churches in Liberia|Liberia]]
* [[Churches in Madagascar|Madagascar]]
* [[Churches in Malawi|Malawi]]
* [[Churches in Mali|Mali]]
* [[Churches in Mauritania|Mauritania]]
* [[Churches in Mauritius|Mauritius]]
* [[Churches in Mozambique|Mozambique]]
* [[Churches in Namibia|Namibia]]
* [[Churches in Niger|Niger]]
* [[Churches in Nigeria|Nigeria]]
* [[Churches in Rwanda|Rwanda]]
* [[Churches in Sao Tome e Principe|Sao Tome e Principe]]
* [[Churches in Senegal|Senegal]]
* [[Churches in Seychelles|Seychelles]]
* [[Churches in Sierra Leone|Sierra Leone]]
* [[Churches in Somalia|Somalia]]
* [[Churches in South Africa|South Africa]]
* [[Churches in Sudan|Sudan]]
* [[Churches in Swaziland|Swaziland]]
* [[Churches in Tanzania|Tanzania]]
* [[Churches in Togo|Togo]]
* [[Churches in Uganda|Uganda]]
* [[Churches in Western Sahara|Western Sahara]]
* [[Churches in Zaire|Zaire]]
* [[Churches in Zambia|Zambia]]
* [[Churches in Zimbabwe|Zimbabwe]]

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* ''[[Churches in the Middle East|Middle East]]''
* ''[[Churches in sub-continental Asia|Sub-continental Asia]]''
* ''[[Chuches of South East Asia|South East Asia]]''
* ''[[Churches in East Asia|East Asia]]''
* [[Churches in Afghanistan|Afghanistan]]
* [[Churches in Armenia|Armenia]]
* [[Churches in Azerbaijan|Azerbaijan]]
* [[Churches in Bahrain|Bahrain]]
* [[Churches in Bangladesh|Bangladesh]]
* [[Churches in Bhutan|Bhutan]]
* [[Churches in Brunei|Brunei]]
* [[Churches in Cambodia|Cambodia]]
* [[Churches in China|China]]
* [[Churches in Cyprus|Cyprus]]
* [[Churches in Georgia|Georgia]]
* [[Churches in India|India]]
* [[Churches in Indonesia|Indonesia]]
* [[Churches in Iran|Iran]]
* [[Churches in Iraq|Iraq]]
* [[Churches in Israel|Israel]]
* [[Churches in Japan|Japan]]
* [[Churches in Jordan|Jordan]]
* [[Churches in Kazakhstan|Kazakhstan]]
* [[Churches in North Korea|North Korea]]
* [[Churches in South Korea|South Korea]]
* [[Churches in Kuwait|Kuwait]]
* [[Churches in Kyrgyzstan|Kyrgyzstan]]
* [[Churches in Laos|Laos]]
* [[Churches in Lebanon|Lebanon]]
* [[Churches in Malaysia|Malaysia]]
* [[Churches in Maldives|Maldives]]
* [[Churches in Mongolia|Mongolia]]
* [[Churches in Myanmar|Myanmar]]
* [[Churches in Nepal|Nepal]]
* [[Churches in Oman|Oman]]
* [[Churches in Pakistan|Pakistan]]
* [[Churches in Palestinian West Bank and Gaza|Palestinian West Bank and Gaza]]
* [[Churches in Philippines|Philippines]]
* [[Churches in Qatar|Qatar]]
* [[Churches in Russia|Russia]]
* [[Churches in Saudi Arabia|Saudi Arabia]]
* [[Churches in Singapore|Singapore]]
* [[Churches in Sri Lanka|Sri Lanka]]
* [[Churches in Syria|Syria]]
* [[Churches in Taiwan|Taiwan]]
* [[Churches in Tajikistan|Tajikistan]]
* [[Churches in Thailand|Thailand]]
* [[Churches in Timor Lorosae|Timor Lorosae]]
* [[Churches in Turkey|Turkey]]
* [[Churches in Turkmenistan|Turkmenistan]]
* [[Churches in United Arab Emirates|United Arab Emirates]]
* [[Churches in Uzbekistan|Uzbekistan]]
* [[Churches in Viet Nam|Viet Nam]]
* [[Churches in Yemen|Yemen]]

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* [[Churches in Australia|Australia]]
** [[Churches in the Australian Capital Territory|Capital Territory]]
** [[Churches in New South Wales|New South Wales]]
** [[Churches in the Northern Territory|Northern Territory]]
** [[Churches in Queensland|Queensland]]
** [[Churches in South Australia|South Australia]]
** [[Churches in Victoria|Victoria]]
** [[Churches in Western Australia|Western Australia]]
** [[Churches in miscellaneous areas of Australia|Miscellaneous]]
* [[Churches in New Zealand|New Zealand]]
* [[Churches in Papua New Guinea|Papua New Guinea]]
* [[Churches in the Solomons|Solomons]]

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* ''[[Churches in the United Kingdom and Ireland|United Kingdom/Ireland]]''
* ''[[Churches of Scandinavia and Northern Europe|Scandinavia/Northern Europe]]''
* ''[[Churches of Southern Europe|Southern Europe]]''
* ''[[Churches of Western Europe|Western Europe]]''
* ''[[Churches of Eastern Europe|Eastern Europe]]''
* [[Churches in Albania|Albania]]
* [[Churches in Andorra|Andorra]]
* [[Churches in Armenia|Armenia]]
* [[Churches in Austria|Austria]]
* [[Churches in Azerbaijan|Azerbaijan]]
* [[Churches in Belarus|Belarus]]
* [[Churches in Belgium|Belgium]]
* [[Churches in Bosnia and Herzegovina|Bosnia/Herzegovina]]
* [[Churches in Bulgaria|Bulgaria]]
* [[Churches in Croatia|Croatia]]
* [[Churches in Cyprus|Cyprus]]
* [[Churches in Czech Republic|Czech Republic]]
* [[Churches in Denmark|Denmark]]
* [[Churches in Estonia|Estonia]]
* [[Churches in Finland|Finland]]
* [[Churches in France|France]]
* [[Churches in Georgia|Georgia]]
* [[Churches in Germany|Germany]]
* [[Churches in Greece|Greece]]
* [[Churches in Hungary|Hungary]]
* [[Churches in Iceland|Iceland]]
* [[Churches in Republic of Ireland|Republic of Ireland]]
* [[Churches in Italy|Italy]]
* [[Churches in Kazakhstan|Kazakhstan]]
* [[Churches in Latvia|Latvia]]
* [[Churches in Liechtenstein|Liechtenstein]]
* [[Churches in Lithuania|Lithuania]]
* [[Churches in Luxembourg|Luxembourg]]
* [[Churches in Republic of Macedonia|Republic of Macedonia]]
* [[Churches in Malta|Malta]]
* [[Churches in Moldova|Moldova]]
* [[Churches in Monaco|Monaco]]
* [[Churches in Netherlands|Netherlands]]
* [[Churches in Norway|Norway]]
* [[Churches in Poland|Poland]]
* [[Churches in Portugal|Portugal]]
* [[Churches in Romania|Romania]]
* [[Churches in Russia|Russia]]
* [[Churches in San Marino|San Marino]]
* [[Churches in Serbia and Montenegro|Serbia/Montenegro]]
* [[Churches in Slovakia|Slovakia]]
* [[Churches in Slovenia|Slovenia]]
* [[Churches in Spain|Spain]]
* [[Churches in Sweden|Sweden]]
* [[Churches in Switzerland|Switzerland]]
* [[Churches in Turkey|Turkey]]
* [[Churches in Ukraine|Ukraine]]
* [[Churches in United Kingdom|United Kingdom]]
* [[Churches in Vatican City|Vatican City]]

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* ''[[Churches in Caribbean|Caribbean]]''
** [[Churches in Antigua and Barbuda|Antigua/Barbuda]]
** [[Churches in Aruba|Aruba]]
** [[Churches in Bahamas|Bahamas]]
** [[Churches in Barbados|Barbados]]
** [[Churches in Cayman Islands|Cayman Islands]]
** [[Churches in Cuba|Cuba]]
** [[Churches in Dominica|Dominica]]
** [[Churches in Dominican Republic|Dominican Republic]]
** [[Churches in Grenada|Grenada]]
** [[Churches in Guadeloupe|Guadeloupe]]
** [[Churches in Haiti|Haiti]]
** [[Churches in Jamaica|Jamaica]]
** [[Churches in Martinique|Martinique]]
** [[Churches in Puerto Rico|Puerto Rico]]
** [[Churches in Saint Kitts and Nevis|St. Kitts/Nevis]]
** [[Churches in Saint Lucia|St. Lucia]]
** [[Churches in Saint Vincent and the Grenadines|Saint Vincent/the Grenadines]]
** [[Churches in Trinidad and Tobago|Trinidad/Tobago]]
** [[Churches in Turks and Caicos Islands|Turks/Caicos Islands]]
** [[Churches in Virgin Islands|Virgin Islands]]
* ''[[Churches in Central America|Central America]]''
** [[Churches in Belize|Belize]]
** [[Churches in Costa Rica|Costa Rica]]
** [[Churches in El Salvador|El Salvador]]
** [[Churches in Guatemala|Guatemala]]
** [[Churches in Honduras|Honduras]]
** [[Churches in Nicaragua|Nicaragua]]
** [[Churches in Panama|Panama]]

* [[Churches in Canada|Canada]]
* [[Churches in the United States|United States]]
** [[Churches in Alabama|Alabama]]
** [[Churches in Alaska|Alaska]]
** [[Churches in Arizona|Arizona]]
** [[Churches in Arkansas|Arkansas]]
** [[Churches in California|California]]
** [[Churches in Colorado|Colorado]]
** [[Churches in Connecticut|Connecticut]]
** [[Churches in Delaware|Delaware]]
** [[Churches in Florida|Florida]]
** [[Churches in Georgia|Georgia]]
** [[Churches in Hawaii|Hawaii]]
** [[Churches in Idaho|Idaho]]
** [[Churches in Illinois|Illinois]]
** [[Churches in Indiana|Indiana]]
** [[Churches in Iowa|Iowa]]
** [[Churches in Kansas|Kansas]]
** [[Churches in Kentucky ]]
** [[Churches in Louisiana|Louisiana]]
** [[Churches in Maine|Maine]]
** [[Churches in Maryland|Maryland]]
** [[Churches in Massachusetts|Massachusetts]]
** [[Churches in Michigan|Michigan]]
** [[Churches in Minnesota|Minnesota]]
** [[Churches in Mississippi|Mississippi]]
** [[Churches in Missouri|Missouri]]
** [[Churches in Montana|Montana]]
** [[Churches in Nebraska|Nebraska]]
** [[Churches in Nevada|Nevada]]
** [[Churches in New Hampshire|New Hampshire]]
** [[Churches in New Jersey|New Jersey]]
** [[Churches in New Mexico|New Mexico]]
** [[Churches in New York|New York]]
** [[Churches in North Carolina|North Carolina]]
** [[Churches in North Dakota|North Dakota]]
** [[Churches in Ohio|Ohio]]
** [[Churches in Oklahoma|Oklahoma]]
** [[Churches in Oregon|Oregon]]
** [[Churches in Pennsylvania|Pennsylvania]]
** [[Churches in Rhode Island|Rhode Island]]
** [[Churches in South Carolina|South Carolina]]
** [[Churches in South Dakota|South Dakota]]
** [[Churches in Tennessee|Tennessee]]
** [[Churches in Texas|Texas]]
** [[Churches in Utah|Utah]]
** [[Churches in Vermont|Vermont]]
** [[Churches in Virginia|Virginia]]
** [[Churches in Washington|Washington]]
** [[Churches in West Virginia|West Virginia]]
** [[Churches in Wisconsin|Wisconsin]]
** [[Churches in Wyoming|Wyoming]]
* [[Churches in Mexico|Mexico]]
* [[Churches in Belize|Belize]]
* [[Churches in Costa Rica|Costa Rica]]
* [[Churches in El Salvador|El Salvador]]
* [[Churches in Guatemala|Guatemala]]
* [[Churches in Honduras|Honduras]]
* [[Churches in Nicaragua|Nicaragua]]
* [[Churches in Panama|Panama]]

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* [[Churches in Argentina|Argentina]]
* [[Churches in Bolivia|Bolivia]]
* [[Churches in Brazil|Brazil]]
* [[Churches in Chile|Chile]]
* [[Churches in Colombia|Colombia]]
* [[Churches in Ecuador|Ecuador]]
* [[Churches in French Guiana|French Guiana]]
* [[Churches in Guyana|Guyana]]
* [[Churches in Paraguay|Paraguay]]
* [[Churches in Peru|Peru]]
* [[Churches in Suriname|Suriname]]
* [[Churches in Uruguay|Uruguay]]
* [[Churches in Venezuela|Venezuela]]

|}

'''External directories of churches'''
* [http://www.wcc-coe.org/wcc/links/church.html Alphabetical listing of church and ecumenical organizations from the world directory of churches]
* [http://www.fishthe.net/churches.html Directory of Churches]
* [http://netministries.org/churches.htm Netministries directory of churches]
* [http://www.biblebelievers.com/churches/ Bible Believers Church Directory]
* [http://worshipquest.org/?src=overture Search for one of over 70,000 churches]
* [http://www.usachurch.com/ USA Christian church directory]

{{church}}

Talk:Directory listing of churches around the world

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==Directory Listing of Churches==

Please visit the [[Directory listing of churches around the world]] and add your church into the database. It would be a wonderful and remarkable thing if WikiChristian could have a listing of all the churches in the world with a short description of the church making a note of the service times and the address. For example, the church I go to is [[St Matthew's and St Bart's Anglican Churches in Adelaide, South Australia]], which can be reached by following: [[Churches in Australasia and the Pacific islands]] -> [[Churches in Australia]] -> [[Churches in South Australia]] -> [[Churches in Adelaide and its suburbs]]. So, if your a regular attender of a church, why not add it to the database? --[[User:Graham grove|Graham grove]] 09:54, 19 Sep 2005 (EDT)

== Making it easier to navigate the list... ==

I've been thinking that this list of churches, although useful, is to hard to navigate. There are just more clicks than are necessary to get where one wants to go. I will start developing a some easier system that involves just the use of a single page... e.g. the Directory listing page. If any one has any suggestions, please mention them here... --[[User:Ymmotrojam|Ymmotrojam]] 21:16, 26 January 2006 (EST)

Genesis

2006-06-09T15:57:46Z

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''In brief'': Genesis is the first book of the Bible. It is a book of beginnings - the beginning of the universe and how people spoiled it, and the beginning of God's plan to restore it through the beginning of a nation. It tells us about God, who was before time, and is the creator of everything there is. Genesis tells us that God created Adam and Eve in his image, but that they spoiled this creation, by wilful disobedience, bringing death to mankind. The book tells the stories of early humans including Noah and the Flood and Abraham and his descendents.

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'''Overviews'''
* [[An introduction to Genesis]]
* [[Bible Dictionary: Genesis]]
* [[Book of Genesis (Catholic Encyclopedia)]]
* [[Genesis (wikible)]]

'''Different translations of Genesis'''
* [[Bible, English, King James, Genesis]]
* [[Bible, English, World English, Genesis]]
* [[Bible, English, American Standard Version, Genesis]]

'''Studies in Genesis'''
* [[Studies of people or stories in Genesis]]
* [[Apologetics: Genesis]]
* [[Mathew Henry Commentary on the Whole Bible: Genesis]]
* [[Genesis 1]]
** [[Genesis 1 (J6Dpedia)]]

'''Articles / opinions'''
* [[Comments about Genesis]]

'''Quotes'''
* [[Famous quotes about Genesis]]

'''See also'''
* [[Creation]]
* [[Books of the Law: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy]]

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Return to [[Bible]] contents page

Life FM (Adelaide, South Australia)

2006-06-09T15:57:36Z

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''In brief'': Life FM (107.9 MHz) was the first (and remains the only widely listened to) Christian radio in Adelaide South Australia. It was set up in 1993 after 20 years on the blackboard. It was originally called Alta-Mira FM.

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'''Overviews'''
* [[About Life FM (Adelaide, South Australia)|About Life FM]]

'''Articles / opinions'''
* [[Comments about Adelaide's Life FM]]

'''Quotes'''
* [[Quotes from Life FM]]
* [[Quotes about Life FM]]

'''External links'''
* [http://www.life.on.net/ Life FM - www.life.on.net]

{{radio}}

Jacob (Genesis)

2006-06-09T15:57:21Z

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''In brief,'' Jacob was an important figure in the Old Testament. His story is told in the Book of Genesis. He was the son of Isaac, who was the son of Abraham. He purchased the birthright from his brother Esau for a pot of soup, and his wife Rachel from his uncle Laban in return for seven years labour. God later renamed Jacob to Israel after he wrestled with an angel, and he became the father of the Israelites.

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'''Overviews'''
* [[An overview of the story of Jacob in Genesis]]
* [[Bible Dictionary: Jacob]]

'''Articles / opinions / studies'''
* [[Some short comments about Jacob in Genesis by different users]]

'''Acounts of the story of Jacob'''
* [[The biblical account of the story of Jacob in Genesis]]

'''Quotes'''
* [[Bible quotes about the Jacob of Genesis]]
* [[Famous quotes about the Jacob of Genesis]]

'''See also'''
* [[Genesis]]
* [[Abraham (Genesis)|Abraham]]
* [[Isaac (Genesis)|Jacob]]
* [[Rebecca (Genesis)|Rebecca]]

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Thomas Aquinas

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''In brief'': Thomas Aquinas (1225-1274) was an Italian Roman Catholic philosopher and theologian in the scholastic tradition. He gave birth to the Thomistic school of philosophy, which was long the primary philosophical approach of the Roman Catholic Church. He is considered by the Catholic Church to be its greatest theologian and one of the thirty-three Doctors of the Church.

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'''Overviews'''
* [[About Thomas Aquinas]]
* [[Thomas Aquinas (theopedia)]]

'''Articles / opinions'''
* [[Comments about Thomas Aquinas]]

'''Quotes'''
* [[Quotes of Thomas Aquinas]]
* [[Quotes about Thomas Aquinas]]

'''Works by Thomas Aquinas'''
* [[De Fallaciis]], 1244
* [[De Propositionibus Modalibus]], 1244-1245
* [[On Being and Essence]] (''De Ente et Essentia''), 1254-1256
* [[The Principles of Nature]], 1255
* [[Disputed Questions]], 1256-1272
* [[Contra Impugnantes Dei Cultum et Religionem]], 1257
* [[On the Trinity of Boethius]], 1257-1258
* [[Super Boethium de Hebdomadibus]], 1258
* [[Summa contra Gentiles]], 1258-1264
* [[On Kingship: To the King of Cyprus]], 1265-1266
* [[Summa Theologica]], 1265-1272
* [[On Spiritual Creatures]], 1266-1269
* [[De Perfectione Vitae Spiritualis]], 1269
* [[Contra Pestiferam Doctrinam Retrahentium Homines a Religionis Ingressu]], 1270
* [[De Aeternitate Mundi Contra Murmurantes]], 1270
* [[The Unicity of the Intellect]], 1270
* [[De Substantiis Separatis]], 1272-1273
* [[Compendium of Theology]], 1273
* [[De Mixtione Elementorum ad Magistrum Philippe]], 1273
* [[Two Precepts of Charity]], 1273
* [[De Natura Materiae et Dimensionibus Interminalis]]
* [[De Natura Verbi Intellectus]]
* [[Catena aurea]]
* [[First Treatise on Univerals]]
* [[Commentary on the Logic of Aristotle]]

'''External links'''
* Works of Aquinas
** [http://www.nd.edu/Departments/Maritain/etext/gc.htm Summa contra Gentiles]
** [http://www.newadvent.org/summa Summa Theologica]
** [http://www4.desales.edu/~philtheo/aquinas/Nature.html The Principles of Nature]
** [http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/basis/aquinas-esse.html On Being and Essence] (''De Ente et Essentia'')
** [http://www.ccel.org/a/aquinas/catena/home.htm Catena Aurea] (partial)
** [http://www.corpusthomisticum.org/ Corpus Thomisticum] - the works of St. Thomas Aquinas (Latin)
* About Aquinas
** [http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14663b.htm Catholic Encyclopedia article]
** [http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks01/0100331.txt Biography of Aquinas by G. K. Chesterton] (Warning: protected by copyright outside of Australia)
** [http://www.nd.edu/Departments/Maritain/etext/staamp3.htm On the legend of St. Albert's automaton]
** [http://www.unav.es/cryf/extraterrestriallife.html Aquinas on Intelligent Extra-Terrestrial Life]
** [http://www.poetseers.org/spiritual_and_devotional_poets/christian/st_thomas/ St Thomas of Aquinas ] Selected Prayers and poems
** [http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/aquinas/ ''Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy'' entry]

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Updated King James Version

2006-06-09T15:56:48Z

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''In brief'': The updated KJV is an update of archaic words and certain expressions in the Authorized King James Version. This is done using software known only as the “Translator”. The program searches the entire text of the KJV and replaces words that are archaic and old expressions taken from a special dictionary. This dictionary contains words that are selected by ‘contextual’ comparison that are done manually by examining the original Hebrew/Greek words in the Strong’s concordance.

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'''Overviews'''
* [[An overview of the Updated King James Version]]
* [[Updated King James Version Preface and Copyright]]

'''Articles and opinions'''
* [[Comments about the Updated King James Version]]

'''Quotes'''
* [[Quotes about the Updated King James Version]]

'''Text'''
* '''The Old Testament''' - [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, Genesis|Genesis]] | [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, Exodus|Exodus]] | [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, Leviticus|Leviticus]] | [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, Numbers|Numbers]] | [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, Deuteronomy|Deuteronomy]] | [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, Joshua|Joshua]] | [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, Judges|Judges]] | [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, Ruth|Ruth]] | [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, 1 Samuel|1 Samuel]] | [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, 2 Samuel|2 Samuel]] | [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, 1 Kings|1 Kings]] | [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, 2 Kings|2 Kings]] | [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, 1 Chronicles|1 Chronicles]] | [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, 2 Chronicles|2 Chronicles]] | [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, Ezra|Ezra]] | [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, Nehemiah|Nehemiah]] | [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, Esther|Esther]] | [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, Job|Job]] | [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, Psalms|Psalms]] | [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, Proverbs|Proverbs]] | [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, Ecclesiastes|Ecclesiastes]] | [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, Song of Solomon|Song of Solomon]] | [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, Isaiah|Isaiah]] | [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, Jeremiah|Jeremiah]] | [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, Lamentations|Lamentations]] | [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, Ezekiel|Ezekiel]] | [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, Daniel|Daniel]] | [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, Hosea|Hosea]] | [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, Joel|Joel]] | [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, Amos|Amos]] | [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, Obadiah|Obadiah]] | [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, Jonah|Jonah]] | [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, Micah|Micah]] | [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, Nahum|Nahum]] | [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, Habakkuk|Habakkuk]] | [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, Zephanaiah|Zephanaiah]] | [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, Haggai|Haggai]] | [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, Zechariah|Zechariah]] | [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, Malachi|Malachi]]
* '''The New Testament''' - [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, Matthew|Matthew]] | [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, Mark|Mark]] | [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, Luke|Luke]] | [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, John|John]] | [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, Acts|Acts]] | [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, Romans|Romans]] | [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, 1 Corinthians|1 Corinthians]] | [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, 2 Corinthians|2 Corinthians]] | [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, Galatians|Galatians]] | [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, Ephesians|Ephesians]] | [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, Philippians|Philippians]] | [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, Colossians|Colossians]] | [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, 1 Thessalonians|1 Thessalonians]] | [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, 2 Thessalonians|2 Thessalonians]] |[[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, 1 Timothy|1 Timothy]] | [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, 2 Timothy|2 Timothy]] | [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, Titus|Titus]] | [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, Philemon|Philemon]] | [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, Hebrews|Hebrews]] | [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, James|James]] | [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, 1 Peter|1 Peter]] | [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, 2 Peter|2 Peter]] | [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, 1 John|1 John]] | [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, 2 John|2 John]] | [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, 3 John|3 John]] | [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, Jude|Jude]] | [[Bible, English, The Updated King James Version, Revelation|Revelation]]

'''External links'''
* [http://www.geocities.com/updatedkjv/ The UPDATED King James Version]
* [http://www.godweb.org/blkjv.htm The Computer Updated King James Version at GodWeb]

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Talk:Updated King James Version

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Looks like a good resource for O.T., but do you want bold line to read "The The..." Where do I start the Urban Modernity translation of N.T. There are no active Talk pages related to the translation projects or guidelines for translation. There are 4 versions that could be edited. I just found a whole chapter of Jude displaced in the ASV and tried to correct it and was successful. My thoughts are to focus on one book and only open up three verses at a time for translation and when the concensus is reached the accumulation of verses would be locked, then three more for edit, etc. When the USV is opened up with all the empty links, the enormity of the task is somewhat daunting. I have found only one person editing in the WEB version, better to start small. I can setup the Book of John as outlined. Also, found no Greek characters in WikiChristian software. TGIF [[User:Athrash|[[User:Athrash|<nowiki></nowiki>]] - [[User:Athrash|Athrash]] | [[User_talk:Athrash|{Talk)]] ]] 18:44, 22 Apr 2005 (PDT)

Mere Christianity

2006-06-09T15:56:42Z

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''In brief'': Christianity is not about sets of rules about how to live. It is not about belonging to a particular organization. It is about personally knowing Jesus Christ as our Lord and saviour. This is mere Christianity.

''This topic refers to people's thoughts on living simply as a Christ, without adding man-made layers or requirements.'' '''See also'''
* [[Mere Christianity (by C.S. Lewis)]]

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'''Articles and opinions'''
* [[How have we grown? (Anonymous)]]

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Web Directory: Christian Fun and Games

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* [http://www.myfriendmagazine.com/games/ MY FRIEND's fun and games]

* [http://www.christianitytoday.com/fun Christianity Today Fun]

* [http://www.jesusanswers.com/games/christian.htm Christian games & Bible puzzles]

See also

* [[Web Directory: Christian Humor|Christian Humor]]
* [[Web Directory: Bible Quizzes|Bible Quizzes]]

{{dir}}

Kutless

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''In brief'': Kutless is a Christian rock band, originally from Portland, Oregon. Many of Kutless's songs have been played on Christian radio stations.

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'''Overviews'''
* [[About Kutless]]

'''Songs by Kutless'''
* [[Finding who we are (song)|Finding who we are]]

'''Articles and opinions'''
* [[Comments about Kutless]]

'''Quotes'''
* [[Quotes about Kutless]]

{{songwriters}}

Churches in London Index

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{{alphabetic}}

===Bromptom===

[[Holy Trinity (Bromptom, London)|Holy Trinity]]

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Anabaptist and related churches

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''In brief'': Anabaptists (Greek ana+baptizo "re-baptizers", German: Wiedertäufer) are Christians of the the Protestant Reformation who believed that baptism was only appropriate for an adult believer. The term was coined by critics, who objected to the practice of performing baptism for adults whose previous baptism, as infants, the Anabaptists claimed was not valid.

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'''History and overviews'''
* [[Introduction to the Anabaptist and related churches]]

'''Divisionso'''
* [[Mennonite Church]]
* [[Brethren Church]]
* [[Amish Church]]

'''Doctrine'''
* [[An overview of Protestant doctrine]] and [[An overview of Anabaptist doctrine]]
* [[Important Christian doctrines and beliefs]] common to all denominations
* [[Justification by faith]] alone
* [[Believer's baptism]]

'''Articles / opinions'''
* [[Comments about the Anabaptist churches]]

'''Quotes'''
* [[Quotes about the Anabaptist churches]]

'''Miscellaneous'''
* [[Anabaptist churches: Miscellaneous]]

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Christian wikis

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{| class="infobox"
| [[{{PAGENAME}}#Bible Encyclopedias|Bible Encyclopedias]]
|-
| [[{{PAGENAME}}#General Christianity and Christian Theology Encyclopedias|General Christianity]]
|-
| [[{{PAGENAME}}#Specific Denominations or Traditions|Specific Denominations]]
|}

The history of '''Christian wikis''' is much more recent than that of wikis in general. A [[wiki]] website is a site that allows users to add content, as on an [[internet forum]], but also allows anyone to edit the content.

[[Wikipedia]], with hundreds-of-thousands of articles, is the most well-known wiki website and is a testimony to the effectiveness of wikis in allowing exchange of information through collaborative effort. It contains thousands of articles related to [[religion]]. One of the criticisms that adherents to various religious groups have however is that in attempting to maintain a [[neutral point of view]], some of the teachings of their religion can be "watered-down" or altered. These critics also state that the neutral point of view is in the eye of the beholder. In response to some of these criticism, explicitly Christian wiki websites have been set up. The majority of them adhere to a specific Christian [[denomination]] or tradition, including most that claim to be non-specifically "Christian" in nature. They tend to fall into three categories, Online [[Bible]] encyclopedias (of varying completeness and denominational emphases), general Christianity wikis without a specific denominational slant, and wikis devoted to a specific Christian denomination or tradition.

==Bible Encyclopedias==
:'''Bible Study Wiki''': A question and answer wiki focused on the Bible. ''The denominational slant or tradition is unknown''. © [http://www.churchquality.com/ Church Quality Services] http://www.biblestudywiki.com

:'''BibleWiki''': A "project to build a wiki of information around the Bible". It aims towards the scholarly approach, rather than denominational doctrines. ''The denominational slant or tradition is unknown''. [[wikisource:Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License|Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License]] http://bible.tmtm.com/wiki/Main_Page | [http://bible.tmtm.com/wiki/BibleWiki:About About Page]

:'''BibleWiki.net''': A wiki containing information about the Bible and a catalogue of Bible-related issues. ''It takes a [[protestant]] point of view''. [[wikisource:Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License|Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License]] http://www.biblewiki.net | [http://biblewiki.net/Bible_Wiki:About About Page]

:'''Faithpedia''': A wiki encyclopedia of Faith. ''It takes a Christian slant'' but aims to give an overview of Faith in general. [[wikisource:Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License|Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License]] http://www.faithpedia.co.uk | [http://www.faithpedia.co.uk]

:'''TheWikiBible''': An online Bible commentary and encyclopedia. ''The denominational slant or tradition is unknown''. [[GFDL]] http://www.thebible.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page | [http://www.thebible.net/wiki/aindex.php/TheWikiBible:About About Page]

:'''Open Bible Project''': A "study Bible". ''geared specifically for Protestant [[preterist]]s''. [http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.5/ CCP] http://openbibleproject.org | [http://openbibleproject.org/The_Open_Bible_Project:About About Page]

:'''Wikible''': A community focused on making a comprehensive encyclopedia of the [[Bible]]. ''Wikible takes an inerrant view of the Bible''. [[GFDL]] http://www.wikible.org | [http://www.rvralumni.com/tmajor/index.php?title=Wikible:About About Page]

==General Christianity and Christian Theology Encyclopedias==
:'''Christianity Knowledge Base''': Articles and discussions on any [[Christian]] topics. ''Christian Point of View''. [[GFDL]] http://christianity.wikia.com/ | [http://christianity.wikia.com/wiki/Christianity_Knowledge_Base:About About Page]

:'''ChristWiki''': A fork of the Christianity Knowledge Base. ''Christian Point of View''. [[GFDL]] http://christ.relately.com | [http://christ.relately.com/wiki/ChristWiki:About About Page]

:'''TheoWiki''': A general theological wiki with Christian emphasis but not "distinctively Christian". ''The denominational slant or tradition is unknown''. [[GFDL]] http://www.theowiki.com/ | [http://www.theowiki.com/index.php/TheoWiki:About About Page]

:'''TheologyWiki''': A Christian theological wiki. ''dedicated to a consensual ecumenical perspective''. [[GFDL]] http://theology.wikicities.com | [http://theologia.wikia.com/wiki/TheologyWiki:About About Page]

:'''WikiChristian''': A wiki encyclopedia of Christianity. . [[GFDL]] http://www.wikichristian.org/ | [http://www.wikichristian.org/index.php/Wikichristian:About About Page]

:'''WikiChristian2''': A fork off of WikiChristian. It aims to make a better WikiChristian. ''Christian Point of View''. [[GFDL]] http://www.rvralumni.com/wikichristian | [http://www.rvralumni.com/wikichristian/index.php?title=Wikichristian:About About Page]

:'''Christian Forums Wiki''': A general Christianity wiki, which is part of ''Christian Forums'', a large online Christian community. ''The denominational slant or tradition is unknown''. Unknown license http://www.christianforums.com/wiki

==Specific Denominations or Traditions==

:'''CARMPedia''': A wiki encyclopedia of Christianity. ''It takes a [[protestant]] point of view''. Unknown license http://www.carmpedia.com/ | [http://www.carmpedia.com/index.php/CARMPEDIA:About About Page]

:'''Compass''': A wiki encyclopedia of Christianity. ''It takes a [[protestant]] point of view''. [[GFDL]] http://theconnexion.net/compass | [http://theconnexion.net/compass/index.php/Compass:About About Page]

:'''CreationWiki''': A Christian [[apologetics]] encyclopedia focused on [[creation science]]. ''"Contributing editors must believe the universe and life on earth were created by God"''. [[GFDL]] http://www.nwcreation.net/wiki/ | [http://www.nwcreation.net/wiki/index.php?title=CreationWiki:About About Page]

:'''J6Dpedia''': An online encyclopedia of [[Christian Apologetics]]. ''Christian Point of View''. Unknown License http://www.justsixdays.co.uk/site4/ | [http://www.justsixdays.co.uk/site4/index.php/J6Dpedia:About About Page]

:'''MormonWiki.org''': It attempts to share the love of Christ to Mormons while showing what it purports to be fallacies of Mormonism. ''It takes a [[protestant]] point of view''. [[GFDL]] http://mormonwiki.org/ | [http://mormonwiki.org/MormonWiki.org:About About Page]

:'''OrthodoxWiki''': A wiki encyclopedia of Eastern Orthodox Christianity. [[GFDL]] / [[wikisource:Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5|Creative Commons Attribution ShareAlike]] / [[wikimedia:Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 2.5|non-commercial attribution share-alike]] / © http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/ | [http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/OrthodoxWiki:About About Page]

:'''Theopedia''': A conservative Calvinist theology wiki encyclopedia. ''It holds the Reformed view point, but its forum is open to all denominations''. [[GFDL]] http://www.theopedia.com/ | [http://www.theopedia.com/Theopedia:About About Page]

:'''Tulipedia''': A wiki dedicated to [[Calvinism]]. [[GFDL]] http://www.tulipedia.org/ | [http://www.tulipedia.org/Tulipedia:About About Page]

:'''WikiCath''': A Catholic encyclopedia wiki. ''It takes a Catholic point of view''. [[GFDL]] http://www.wikicath.org/ | [http://www.wikicath.org/index.php/WikiCath:About About Page]
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[[Category:Christian websites]]

Talk:Christian wikis

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== Combining our efforts? ==

It appears that there are multiple, slightly different, but similar wikis to do with different Christian aspects. They include WikiChristian, WikiBible, Wikible, Theopedia, Carmpedia, Compass and so on. A reasonably full list with links can be found at [[About Christian Wikis]].

It seems to me that each wiki has 1 or 2 or 3 or 4 dedicated users, which isn't really that many. If there was some way we could all agree to become involved in one Chrisitan wiki, either by all joining forces and working on one of the above listed wikis, or by restarting and creating a new wiki, then perhaps we could create a really comprehensive and useful and most importantly, a '''used''' wiki for Christianity. What do you think? If you wish to comment, post your comments here. --[[User:Graham grove|Graham grove]] 10:29, 27 Dec 2005 (EST)

:Theopedia contacted CARMpedia (when it began) about combining efforts since there seemed to be considerable commonality in perspective. There was no interest from CARMpedia in doing so at that time. Theopedia has a significant amount of content and invites participation -- however, a preference for the Protestant (Reformed) perspective will likely keep Theopedia as a separate wiki. Respectfully, ''Gomarus at Theopedia'', [[User:65.168.235.36|65.168.235.36]] 20:44, 2 Jan 2006 (EST)

::Good point. A way around that however would be to have wiki that can cover all view points, however individual articles within it could be specific to a particular perspective - for example, you could write an article on '''Salvation (Reformed view)''' under the main article [[Salvation]]. --[[User:203.26.206.130|203.26.206.130]] 06:55, 18 February 2006 (EST)

:::I have found that there are quite a few differences between the Orthodox Church and both "baseline" Western Protestantism (the presumption for "Christian" in most English-speaking forums) and Evangelical Protestantism. A merge would require so many caveats and exceptions as to be unwieldy. {{unsigned|134.68.153.37}}

== What about interlinking instead? ==

I understand the thought, but one must also realize that not all these Wikis are for exactly the same purpose. I wouldn't necessarily combine them all together, but rather figure out what category each one fits into... For example, some are more leaning towards information about just Christianity itself, while Wikible and BibleWiki are more about the Bible itself. Some disadvantages of one wiki are... 1) If that site goes down, there's no other resource out there. 2) having more than one wiki furthers creativity because each wiki can have unique aspects of it's own.

What I think would be better is that if all the mentioned wikis would interlink between each other. Moving all the content to a single Wiki at this point would be a huge undertaking! atleast with interlinks, each site can grow in their specific areas. --[[User:Ymmotrojam|Ymmotrojam]] 15:29, 30 December 2005 (GMT)

:One of the problems I see with interlinking between different wikis, is that once you link out of a wiki (say WikiChrisitan into Wikible) then all the new links are in the new wiki (Wikible in this case, and not WikiChristian). --[[User:203.26.206.130|203.26.206.130]] 06:52, 18 February 2006 (EST)

::I'm not sure I completely follow you. The whole point would be to have different wikis interlinked... WikiChristian could link to Theopedia and Wikible for example, and Theopedia and Wikible could link back to WikiChristian. --[[User:Ymmotrojam|Ymmotrojam]] 09:47, 19 February 2006 (EST)

== Common licensing ==
I think one thing that each site could consider doing the same, would be a common licensing schema. I, the creator of [http://www.wikible.org Wikible], personally prefer the [http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/fdl.html GNU Free Documentation License]. I do know though that other sites use different licenses or no license at all. My thinking about spiritual matters is that it should be free, and should remain free (free as in freedom), thus the reason why I like the GNU/FDL. --[[User:Ymmotrojam|Ymmotrojam]] 01:14, 3 Jan 2006 (EST)

:Just to add to the above, using the GNU/FDL allows content to be copied from other Wikis with the same license. It would be a violation of the GNU/FDL to copy from say Wikipedia, to a Wiki that had no license or a different one... --[[User:Ymmotrojam|Ymmotrojam]] 01:18, 3 Jan 2006 (EST)

The Passion of the Christ

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''In brief'': The Passion of the Christ (2004) is an independent film about the last twelve hours of the life of Jesus Christ. Mel Gibson directed. The film’s dialogue is in Latin, Hebrew, and Aramaic, which was probably Jesus' mother tongue. There are English subtitles. It was filmed on location in Matera, Italy and Cinecittà Studios, Rome, Italy.

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{{Infobox Movie|
movie_name=The Passion of the Christ |
image=[[Image:The-passion-of-the-christ.jpg|220px|''The Passion of the Christ'' poster]] |
director=Mel Gibson |
writer=Mel Gibson, Benedict Fitzgerald |
starring=James Caviezel, Maia Morgenstern |
producer=Mel Gibson, Bruce Davey, Stephen McEveety |
distributor=Icon Entertainment |
release_date=2004 |
runtime=127 min |
movie_language=Aramaic, Latin, and Hebrew with English subtitles. |
budget=$25,000,000 (estimated)|
}}

'''Overviews'''
* [[About The Passion of the Christ]]

'''Reviews and opinions'''
* [[Comments about The Passion of Christ]]

'''Testimonies: Personal stories relating to The Passion of the Christ'''
* ...

'''Quotes'''
* [[Quotes about the Passion of the Christ]]

'''See also'''
* [[Mel Gibson]]

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Apologetics: Genesis 11.4

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''And they said, Come, let us build us a city, and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven, and let us make us a name; lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth. ([http://biblegateway.com/passage/?search=gen%2011.4;&version=49 Genesis 11.4])''
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===Problem===
No building could reach to heaven.

===External Links===
* [http://www.tektonics.org/af/earthshape.html#high What Shape is the Earth In? ] Tektonic Apologetics Ministries

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Apologetics: Deuteronomy 2.32-33

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===External Links===

[http://www.carm.org/diff/Deut_2_32.htm Israelites destroyed city and killed all inside] Christian Apologetics & Research Ministry

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Apologetics: Genesis 37.25,28,36

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''And they sat down to eat bread: and they lifted up their eyes and looked, and, behold, a caravan of Ishmaelites was coming from Gilead, with their camels bearing spicery and balm and myrrh, going to carry it down to Egypt. . . . And there passed by Midianites, merchantmen; and they drew and lifted up Joseph out of the pit, and sold Joseph to the Ishmaelites for twenty pieces of silver. And they brought Joseph into Egypt. . . . And the Midianites sold him into Egypt unto Potiphar, an officer of Pharaoh’s, the captain of the guard. ([http://biblegateway.com/passage/?search=gen%2037.25&version=49 Genesis 37:25, 28, 36])''
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''And Joseph was brought down to Egypt; and Potiphar, an officer of Pharaoh’s, the captain of the guard, an Egyptian, bought him of the hand of the Ishmaelites, that had brought him down thither. ([http://biblegateway.com/passage/?search=gen%2039.1&version=49 Genesis 39.1])''
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===Problem===
Did the Midianites buyd sell Joseph or did the Ishmaelites?

===External Links===
* [http://www.carm.org/diff/Gen37_28.htm Who purchased Joseph, the Ishmaelites or the Midianites?] Christian Apologetics & Research Ministry

* [http://www.tektonics.org/lp/midish.html Was Joseph Sold to Midianites, or Ishmaelites?] Tektonic Apologetics Ministries

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Christian doctrine and debates

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''In brief:'' Since the church was formed, major events and conflict, often over matters of doctrine has resulted in significant rifts in the church. Various Creeds and catechisms have been written as statements of the beliefs of different Christians. Today there is still considerable differences in understanding on major themes in Christianity like Justification, salvation and grace.

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'''Overviews'''
* [[An overview of debates of Christian doctrine]]

'''Topics'''
* [[Creeds and catechisms]]
* [[The Trinity]]
* [[The nature of Christ]]
* [[Justification, salvation and grace]]
* [[Other teachings and debates]]

'''See also'''
* [[Current issues|Current issues in the church]]
* [[The essence of Christianity]]

'''Articles and opinions'''
* [[Comments about Christian doctrine debates]]

'''Quotes'''
* [[Quotes about Christian doctrine debate]]

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