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User talk:Prab

2008-02-18T19:02:07Z

Lishkee:

I had some spare time and the inclination today to do some editing. :) Is there any way you are able to remove the error from the .htm files that are being used as a source for those pages? The error with the mispelled ''Mathew'' exist in these files too, so in their current state they are going to be adding to the workload in terms of editing out the spelling error before pasting the content into the articles. This is more of a 'spurt' of activity for me, so there is no real rush for any of this to occur. --[[User:Mustaphile|Mustaphile]] 18:23, 20 April 2006 (EDT)

Hi Mustaphile,

Yes, it is possible to search replace. I went ahead and changed it in all the pages along with some other changes that may help. However, there may still be a few things such as removing the space below Mathew Henry link etc. may still have to be done manually in order to make it appear better on the page. I will keep trying to see if we could do that in an easier way. I uploaded the new updated files.

[[User:Prab|Prab]]

==I've noticed something strange==
The Talk:Main Page was moved by Willy on Wheels and then moved back and then it shows me as moving Talk:Main Page to Bitch. I never visited the page on the 11th of May, nor did I move the Talk:Main Page, so I'm curious how the edit history comes to show me as making the move. It's a mystery. I thought perhaps someone might have cracked my account, but my password is definitely not a weak password. It's most disconcerting.

# (cur) (last) 03:04, 11 May 2006 MustaphiIe m (Talk:Main Page moved to Bitch)
# (cur) (last) 18:58, 19 April 2006 Muser m (Talk:Main Page on Wheels moved to Talk:Main Page)
# (cur) (last) 03:47, 19 April 2006 Willy on Wheels m (Talk:Main Page moved to Talk:Main Page on

-edit-

Ah I see now. I think it is someone who has signed up with my name but is using a capital 'I' for Idiot, instead of an lower case 'l' for larry. I noticed this as I was editing this message. :)
--[[User:Mustaphile|Mustaphile]] 02:17, 12 May 2006 (PDT)

== Thanks ==

Thanks for sorting out the Birmingham page i was really tired so i went to bed before finishing it... I live in Birmingham so if you think of anything that you cannot find out easily that i could ask the archbishop myself or somehting else jsut say :-)

God bless
Anton.

== Happy to Help ==

I am happy to help in this worthy project. I would sure think of you when I am in Birmingham and you are welcome to visit us when in Philadelphia. God Bless.

--[[User:Prab|Prab]] 15:39, 15 May 2006 (PDT)

==Added new sysop==
I've added user Ymmotrojam to the list of sysops. I assume thats ok to do. --[[User:Mustaphile|Mustaphile]] 22:50, 19 May 2006 (PDT)

== user permissions ==

Prab, just thought I'd make note of the conversation on [[Talk:Main Page]] about restricting the ability to move pages to only sysops and higher. --[[User:Ymmotrojam|Tom]] 23:07, 19 May 2006 (PDT)
:I'd be supportive of this restriction. The latest vandalism would be resolved quite effectively with this one measure. --[[User:Mustaphile|Mustaphile]] 01:39, 1 June 2006 (PDT)

::As a fellow wiki admin, I'd almost want to make wikichristian over again from scratch, starting off with the latest version of mediawiki, and the latest spam protection measures... I can't imagine how junked up the database must be with all the spam it has gotten, and I'm not entirely surprised that the site has had corruption errors in the past. You could even save the 'user' table in the database so that people don't have to re-register. That's just me though... {{smile}} --[[User:Ymmotrojam|Tom]] 02:08, 1 June 2006 (PDT)

:: I agree that we should restrict the ability of the users to move the pages. The mediawiki version we are using is pretty recent and we do use spam protection measures such as wordpress. However, it is a constant process and we will have to keep upto date with the latest antispam features.

--[[User:Prab|Prab]] 03:05, 14 June 2006 (PDT)

:::I've been distracted for a couple of weeks now, as I am on vacation in the U.S.. I've popped back in to see how things are going and the 'move pages' problem is still there. I don't have the time to go through it all in detail at the moment, so I hope someone else can pick up the slack and fix the latest vandalism. I'll be more active when I get back from my vacation. --[[User:Mustaphile|Mustaphile]] 20:14, 23 June 2006 (PDT)

Hi Mustaphile,

I am wondering if you know how to restrict the move. I know it could be done and there must be a wikipedia page somewhere detailing the process. Please let me know if you find it.

--[[User:Prab|Prab]] 06:20, 2 July 2006 (PDT)
:Checkout the Main Talk page. It'll say there how to do it. --[[User:Ymmotrojam|Tom]] 16:58, 13 July 2006 (PDT)

Thanks Tom, I went ahead and changed the settings so that the move is restricted. --[[User:Prab|Prab]] 20:32, 13 July 2006 (PDT)

== username blacklist ==

I would highly recommend that you install the [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Username_Blacklist username blacklist] extension and the user creation log etension. Sorry, can't remember where I got the latter from, just google it. The user creation log shows in Special:Recentchanges when someone registers, and the username blacklist can help stop repeat spammers from registring that use a certain pattern in their username. --[[User:Ymmotrojam|Tom]] 07:57, 15 July 2006 (PDT)

== Shorter URLs ==

I've made this same [[Talk:Graham_Llewellyn_Grove#Shorter URLs|comment over at Graham's talk page]], but I just realized that you're probably the more technically-able person to suggest this to: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Eliminating_index.php_from_the_url --[[User:RockOfVictory|J. J.]] 18:50, 26 July 2006 (PDT)

== New server ==

Thanks Prab (and Tom) for all your work on the server upgrade. --[[User:Graham grove|Graham grove]] 21:50, 6 October 2006 (EST)

== Sysop Request ==

Hey, Prab! I just recently found this Wiki a few minutes ago, and it looks pretty cool! I've just started working on the this other [http://christianity.wikia.com/wiki/Welcome Christian Wiki] a few days ago, and there was a link there to this one. I noticed you guys have over forty thousand articles, with many new ones coming in day after day. That's more than the other website can say, that's for sure. I also noticed that you have only 12 admins currently, so I'd like to volunteer to help out and become number 13. I'm a major contributer to Wikipedia (I've only been there two months, but I have over 1,000 edits), and I'll really put in some effort here as well. I have a lot of free time during the day (since I'm homeschooled), so I could be around a lot. Being a sysop would help me contribute more here (by clearing up vandals and vandalism, and by editing protected pages that need some cleanup). Although I'm not an admin on Wikipedia, I can assure you I know all about policy and what admins do. I'm a very trustworthy Christian (Non-Denominational Protestant); if you need proof of it, just see my [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:P.B._Pilhet Wikipedia userpage]. I know I don't have much edits here yet, but that will soon change!

Sincerely,[[User:P.B. Pilhet|P.B. Pilhet]] / [[User talk:P.B. Pilhet|Talk]] 10:44, 21 October 2006 (EST)

:The only thing that I disagree with on your [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:P.B._Pilhet&oldid=82522850 Wikipedia user page] is the userbox that says that Evolution and Christianity don't have to conflict. Now that may be very true of modern Christianity, but that does not reflect the Bible. Other than that, I don't have a problem with you being a sysop. I would make a note though that right now WikiChristian's statistics are very misleading. It has many articles, but most are not categorized and there are thousands of very small articles that only contain verses. Checkout this discussion here about it: [[Wikichristian:Village pump#statistics are misleading]] --[[User:Ymmotrojam|Tom]] 14:43, 21 October 2006 (EST)

::Thanks for your support on my sysop request. Just to be clear, I ''don't'' believe in Evolution. I just don't discount its possibilty, that's all. I noticed that you requested adminship on the Christianity Knowledge Base wiki; so have I. Actually, I set up the entire "Requests for Adminship" page there, and mered yours and my nomination to it. You currently have two support votes (one from me and the other from Archola, the site's bureaucrat), and no oppose or neutral votes. I don't have any votes as of yet, and I'd really appreciate your support for me over there, too. Thanks again!

::God bless,[[User:P.B. Pilhet|P.B. Pilhet]] / [[User talk:P.B. Pilhet|Talk]] 16:50, 21 October 2006 (EST)

:::Regarding the issue of evolution. I think we should be happy to let there be differences of opinion regarding this. Just so long as people believe that Christ is their personal saviour, then the rest, although important, is not essential. Plenty of Christians believe that the Genesis account isn't literally 7 days, but that each day refers to a long period of time - in fact, this is by far the majority view of Christians in Australia - things might be different in America. So I think so long as people have accepted Jesus as their Lord who saved them from their sin, then we should be happy to accept varying beliefs for other issues in sysops. --[[User:Graham grove|Graham grove]] 22:18, 21 October 2006 (EST)

::::Hey, Graham! Thanks for your support of me being a sysop. I agree with you in that it would be a good thing for admins to have varying beliefs, as long as they all accept Christ as their Lord and Savior. Both you and Tom seem to want me to help out as an admin, yet nobody's promoted me yet; is this because you need permission from Prab first?

::::God bless![[User:P.B. Pilhet|P.B. Pilhet]] / [[User talk:P.B. Pilhet|Talk]] 22:39, 21 October 2006 (EST)

::::: Prab is indeed the boss of the site. He's a fantastic guy, who is very easy going and laid back and so I'm sure he'd be happy to have you as a sysop. Good luck. I look forward to you helping out, in particular, creating new content to help the site grow is size and usefulness - take a look at the [[Wikichristian:Priority Pages]].

::::::Thanks for the sysop access, Graham. I'll go through that list and see what I can do. I've already done a few things; some spelling and grammar fixes, and a couple of merges. I think I'll try and create some templates, too. Is there a welcome template in place? -- [[User:P.B. Pilhet|P.B. Pilhet]] / [[User talk:P.B. Pilhet|Talk]] 11:29, 22 October 2006 (EST)

::::::: Thanks guys for the compliments but please let me make it clear that I am but one of the contributors/admins and I do not see myself as the boss! We are happy to have a great community here at wikichristian even though none of us meat each other physically! And let me welcome [[User:P.B. Pilhet|P.B. Pilhet]] to the wikichristian community. --[[User:Prab|Prab]] 20:27, 26 October 2006 (EST)

::::::::Thanks for the welcome, Prab! By the way, [[User:Jesusfreakdotcom|Jesusfreakdotcom]] recommended that we switch our server to GoDaddy.com. What do you think? -- [[User:P.B. Pilhet|P.B. Pilhet]] / [[User talk:P.B. Pilhet|Talk]] 21:00, 26 October 2006 (EST)

:::::::::I am sorry I was busy lately and did not get back earlier. I am glad Graham took care of the issue and I am glad to have you as our sysop P.B. Philet. As per godaddy server, I use them for the domain but not for the server. I use Globat.com for our server for a few of our sites and wikichristian is hosted on aplus.net. It depends on what your needs are but I like the control panel and the support of globat for my commercial sites. Thanks and Welcome once again to wikichristian. --[[User:Prab|Prab]] 13:47, 21 December 2006 (EST)

== Images ==

Hi Prab. Thanks for fixing the images problem. Hope your holiday was good by the way. Just a quick note to say that the thumbnails aren't working for any newly uploaded pictures. See [[Church history]] for an example. --[[User:Graham grove|Graham grove]] 19:37, 25 June 2007 (EST)

== Good work ==

Brilliant. Thanks Prab for fixing the images. You're doing a fantastic job running the site, fixing all the problems. God bless, --[[User:Graham grove|Graham grove]] 18:12, 4 July 2007 (EST)

== to: Prab ==

Dear Prab,

I just created a few articles for the wiki http://www.conservapedia.com that just boosted their whole website internet traffic by 150%. I know how to get articles in the #1 and #2 spots for Google. If you want to know how to get articles top ranked by Google please go here: http://www.wikichristian.org/User:Theologian/sandbox2

Let me know if you have any questions. 12:21, 30 November 2007 (EST)

== vandal ==

It appears as if you have a vandal. I am speaking of the user Jesuscool who's edits are located here: http://www.wikichristian.org/index.php/Special:Contributions/Jesuscool [[User:Theologian|Theologian]] 19:23, 23 December 2007 (PST)

== Love the video ability ==

Hi Prab. That was a brilliant idea putting the possibility of embedding videos. I think you've done excellently putting videos into many of the songs we've got on here. Good work!

Something else that I think might be good for WikiChristian is, if it is possible and easy, the addition of the ability to reference. In wikipedia articles can have footnote references by using the command <ref>Put reference in here</ref>. But this doesn't seem to work in WikiChristian.

Once again, good work. Hope all is well with you and your wife and little one. --[[User:Graham grove|Graham grove]] 00:55, 9 February 2008 (PST)

==New MediaWiki Extension (video-wiki)==
Hello,
My name is Lisa and I support all our Wiki partners here at Kaltura.
We have created a new open-source extension to the MediaWiki software, adding wiki- video and rich media functionality.
With this extension, any of your users can create collaborative videos, add images, videos and sounds to the collaborative videos created, or edit them using the full-featured online video editor (with full history and versioning similar to the text-wiki).
Please let me know if this is of interest and if you need any help in setting up the extension. I have included simple instructions below.
Cheers,
Lisa
---------------------------------
Simple steps for adding the video-wiki extension:
1. Get a Partner ID here: http://www.kaltura.com/index.php/cms/signup
2. Download the Kaltura MediaWiki extension here: sourceforge.net/projects/kaltura/
3. Add the extension to your site (installation instructions can be found at: http://www.kaltura.com/wiki/index.php/MediaWiki_Extension)

Lisa Bennett l Director of Public Relations & Marketing l (212) 981-3965 l lisa.bennett@kaltura.com l www.kaltura.com l www.kaltura.com/blog/

User talk:Mustaphile

2008-02-18T19:00:46Z

Lishkee:

I just have to put something in here, as the red link is driving me crazy. :) --[[User:Mustaphile|Mustaphile]] 02:19, 5 May 2005 (PDT)

----

Hi Mustaphile,

I like the ideas you bring in to the wiki and I think the tutorials are really great. You seem to be well versed with [[wiki]'s as you use templates and formatting rules that the average user may not be able to use. We would like to have you as one of the sysops and would like to welcome you to the community of wikichristian sysops.

[[User:Prab|Prab]] 19:50, 6 May 2005 (EST)

Hi Mustaphile,

I appreciate the work you do and the quality and leadership you bring to the wikichristian project. I am sorry for the spelling mistake in the name Mathew in Mathew Henry Bible Commentary. The good news is that I can fix the problem by search replacing it in the frontpage web by a simple mouse click in all the pages and reupload the files. I will go ahead and do it in a day or two. Thank you and God bless.

[[User:Prab|Prab]]

== sysop request ==

I noted this on my talk page as well, but would it be possible for me to be a sysop? I'd like to help fight this vandalism... and do other admin stuff... :-) --[[User:Ymmotrojam|Tom]] 22:39, 19 May 2006 (PDT)

== "from orthodoxwiki" ==

I found it rather interesting that recent spammers are putting a "from orthodoxwiki" after their spam. It's almost as though they trying to make both wikis look bad at the same time... hmm.. --[[User:Ymmotrojam|Tom]] 17:46, 21 May 2006 (PDT)

==Welcome back==

Hi. Hope you had a good time in the U.S. What were you over there for? Business or fun? --[[User:Graham grove|Graham grove]] 06:27, 29 September 2006 (EST)

== Hey Mustaphile! ==

I'm relatively new here, so I just wanted to make your acquaintance. My real name is Justin Matas (I just use P.B. Pilhet as an alias). I saw that you once blocked someone named "Willy on Wheels." Do you have any idea how infamous this guy is on Wikipedia?! -- [[User:P.B. Pilhet|P.B. Pilhet]] / [[User talk:P.B. Pilhet|Talk]] 22:54, 23 October 2006 (EST)

:Hey Mustaphile, it's PB again. If you ever get the chance, would you please make me a sysop/bureaucrat on Compass Wiki. It's taking a lot of vandalism and spam, and no one's helping it. -- [[User:P.B. Pilhet|P.B. Pilhet]] / [[User talk:P.B. Pilhet|Talk]] 22:46, 4 January 2007 (EST)

==New MediaWiki Extension (video-wiki)==
Hello,
My name is Lisa and I support all our Wiki partners here at Kaltura.
We have created a new open-source extension to the MediaWiki software, adding wiki- video and rich media functionality.
With this extension, any of your users can create collaborative videos, add images, videos and sounds to the collaborative videos created, or edit them using the full-featured online video editor (with full history and versioning similar to the text-wiki).
Please let me know if this is of interest and if you need any help in setting up the extension. I have included simple instructions below.
Cheers,
Lisa
---------------------------------
Simple steps for adding the video-wiki extension:
1. Get a Partner ID here: http://www.kaltura.com/index.php/cms/signup
2. Download the Kaltura MediaWiki extension here: sourceforge.net/projects/kaltura/
3. Add the extension to your site (installation instructions can be found at: http://www.kaltura.com/wiki/index.php/MediaWiki_Extension)

Lisa Bennett l Director of Public Relations & Marketing l (212) 981-3965 l lisa.bennett@kaltura.com l www.kaltura.com l www.kaltura.com/blog/

User talk:Muser

2008-02-18T19:00:06Z

Lishkee:

Hi Muser,

Thank you for reverting the pages moved by Willy on Wheels. I went ahead and changed the permissions in the wiki so that only users with sysop previleges can move pages. Thank you and God bless!

--[[User:69.136.74.78|69.136.74.78]] 08:07, 19 April 2006 (EDT)
::Ditto on the above. Thanks for doing all the reverts, Muser. I was away for a couple of days and missed all the action. :) --[[User:Mustaphile|Mustaphile]] 05:29, 20 April 2006 (EDT)

==Hello!==

Hey, Muser. I'm relatively new here, so I want to get acquainted with all the active editors. By the way, nice work with the overview on C.S. Lewis! -- [[User:P.B. Pilhet|P.B. Pilhet]] / [[User talk:P.B. Pilhet|Talk]] 22:44, 22 October 2006 (EST)

: Hi. Thanks for the message. Glad to have you along. Hope you find wikichristian useful and fun... Actually, most of the work on the C.S. Lewis (overview) was a revision of work from wikipedia and theopedia. Both are good sites, but wikipedia is a bit too broad, and theopedia is a bit too narrow. --[[User:Muser|Muser]] 22:49, 22 October 2006 (EST)

::You're welcome! I ''have'' found WikiChristian useful... and fun. I think it's a great cause. I'm a big contributer to Wikipedia, but I've always found it very secular, and ''neutral''. It feels a lot better here, though, knowing I can write articles from a Christian perspective. I seem to remember your name from the Christianity Knowledge Base; I've contributed there, too.

::God bless!<br>[[User:P.B. Pilhet|P.B. Pilhet]] / [[User talk:P.B. Pilhet|Talk]] 23:00, 23 October 2006 (EST)

== Redirects ==

H, Muser. I noticed that you are changing a lot of useless overview pages to redirects; wouldn't it be better to just delete them, instead? -- [[User:P.B. Pilhet|P.B. Pilhet]] / [[User talk:P.B. Pilhet|Talk]] 20:02, 16 March 2007 (EST)

: Fair enough. It does make more sense to delete them. --[[User:Muser|Muser]] 20:12, 16 March 2007 (EST)

: You can see what I'm doing? I'm rearranging the pages to combine the old system of a contents page as well as an overview / encyclopedia page, into one single page. So for example, the old version of the [[Grace]] page looked like this [http://www.wikichristian.org/index.php?title=Grace&oldid=105016 http://www.wikichristian.org/index.php?title=Grace&oldid=105016] and was attached to this encyclopedia / overview page [http://www.wikichristian.org/index.php?title=Grace_%28overview%29&oldid=105015 http://www.wikichristian.org/index.php?title=Grace_%28overview%29&oldid=105015]; now however, it has all been combined into one page [[Grace]]; but this way it is still allowing for a contents area with links to sub-topics such as [[Irresistible grace]] and links to opinions such as [[Justification by faith alone (G.G.)]]. --[[User:Muser|Muser]] 20:12, 16 March 2007 (EST)

::Yeah, I see what you're doing now (I hadn't noticed it before). I think that's a good idea, keeping the normal and oveview parts together in one page. I've always thought having two pages for one article was a little unnecessary, unless of course the article was like 200 kilobytes long or something. I'm glad you liked IMW (inspirational music wiki); it's small right now (very small), but I'm hoping it will grow in the future. Thanks for everything ''you've'' been doing, too! God bless, [[User:P.B. Pilhet|P.B. Pilhet]] / [[User talk:P.B. Pilhet|Talk]] 08:48, 17 March 2007 (EST)

== Category Pages have been created ==

I have created categories for those that were Redlinked. Please note that some pages on [[:Category:Cleanup]] and Orphaned pages link to givemepink. [[User:Kathleen.wright5|Kathleen.wright5]] 00:28, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

== Pages with givemepink attached ==

Pages with givemepink attached are now in the the CLEANUP Category where they belong. Can you do something about them now? [[User:Kathleen.wright5|Kathleen.wright5]] 07:40, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

==New MediaWiki Extension (video-wiki)==
Hello,
My name is Lisa and I support all our Wiki partners here at Kaltura.
We have created a new open-source extension to the MediaWiki software, adding wiki- video and rich media functionality.
With this extension, any of your users can create collaborative videos, add images, videos and sounds to the collaborative videos created, or edit them using the full-featured online video editor (with full history and versioning similar to the text-wiki).
Please let me know if this is of interest and if you need any help in setting up the extension. I have included simple instructions below.
Cheers,
Lisa
---------------------------------
Simple steps for adding the video-wiki extension:
1. Get a Partner ID here: http://www.kaltura.com/index.php/cms/signup
2. Download the Kaltura MediaWiki extension here: sourceforge.net/projects/kaltura/
3. Add the extension to your site (installation instructions can be found at: http://www.kaltura.com/wiki/index.php/MediaWiki_Extension)

Lisa Bennett l Director of Public Relations & Marketing l (212) 981-3965 l lisa.bennett@kaltura.com l www.kaltura.com l www.kaltura.com/blog/

User talk:KHM03

2008-02-18T18:59:28Z

Lishkee:

Hi KHM03

It's good to have you contributing. I've made you a sysop so that you can edit pages that have been protected. We've had quite of lot of anti-Christian vandalism and so most of the pages were at one stage protected - we're slowly unprotecting them. Thanks for contributing.

Graham

Hello

You're off to a prolific start - I'm enjoying reading your articles. I hope you don't mind but I'm moving them around a little. I guess this wiki isn't meant to just be an Encyclopedia of information, but also a place to express views and opinions, and so under topics such as "Grace" there hopefully will eventually be a number of articles, some with purely factual information written by users, others with factual information from various older public domain sources such as Easton's Bible Dictionary and others with some personal thoughts and opinions about the topic or related topics. Thanks for contributing.

Graham

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User talk:Graham grove/Archive 1

2008-02-18T18:58:20Z

Lishkee:

Hi Graham, How are you? I am wondering if we should try to change our domain name to WikiChristian.org and forward the wikichristian.com to that domain since it makes more sense since we want to keep it a non-commercial project. We can also consider registering a [[not for profit organization]] as we grow. Please share your thoughts on this. We already have both the domains with us. Thanks. -Prab

:Hi Prab, Sure. I don't really know what the difference between .com and .org is - but if you think there is a good reason for the change, go for it. --Graham

Hi Graham. I'm glad you're working here. This idea of a Christian wiki has a lot of potential. --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 22:15, 8 Mar 2005 (PST)

:Thanks David --Graham

::''You're welcome. Yes, I would like to [http://theconnexion.net/compass/index.php/User_talk:DavidCary contribute]. I'm glad WikiChristian and the Compass wiki are [http://theconnexion.net/compass/index.php/User_talk:WikiSysop getting along so well]. --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 18:00, 22 Mar 2005 (PST)''

Hi Graham, Thank you for the wonderful work you are doing with all the lyrics. In order to better organize the information in the wiki, it is a good idea to categorize the pages so that the system automatically creates alphabetical lists. All we have to do is to type <nowiki>[[Category:type]]</nowiki> at the bottom of the page. For example, the songs category pages should have <nowiki>[[category:songs]]</nowiki>. Also, there are some dead end pages that do not have any link and the best way to avoid creating dead end pages is by categories and templates. To create a new template, just type <nowiki>{{template name}}</nowiki> and edit the template page with the link created. Thanks for the understanding. --[[User:Prab]]

:Hi Prab, Yep - it's a good idea to use templates and categories. Makes sense to me. However, I still like to have the index and contents pages under the control of the users rather than at the mercy of an automated system. Thanks --Graham

Hi Graham, Thanks for the message in my user page. I think we can do both. Actually, the system does a good job in organizing the info alphabetically but giving the control to the users as well makes sense and we will continue both. Thanks. -Prab

Hello, Graham. Thank you for the warm welcome to WikiChristian. As a United Methodist, I suspect I'll be making lots of Wesleyan-type edits but hope to add significantly to the encyclopedia in a number of categories. Good to be a part of the community! Shalom! [[User:KHM03|KHM03]] 15:05, 22 Mar 2005 (PST)

==Song Styleguide==
I'd like to draw your attention to this talk page, Graham, [[WikiChristian talk:Song styleguide]]. I've made a pretty signigicant change to the titles of the songs and lyrics and hope to promote a single style for the titles. --[[User:Mustaphile|Mustaphile]] 11:06, 8 May 2005 (PDT)

==found your picture==
Found your picture on your website

Good to put a face to the name. {{smile}} --[[User:Mustaphile|Mustaphile]] 20:57, 22 May 2005 (PDT)

==writing in first person==
Hi Graham (my name also happens to be Graham), I was just reading through some of the articles and I notice that frequently in the articles you write you use first person voice liberally. Not that I object to this in general, it's definitely a great tool for communicating Christian truth. However, since this is an Encyclopedia, perhaps we should consider using a more objective (third person) voice as much as possible? In articles and opinions, of course, first person is entirely acceptable. But in the more historical and factual entries, I wonder whether the first person voice comes off as scholarly or merely as "preachy," thus turning off potential believers and causing WikiChristian to be viewed as "just another evangelist website." Again, not that I object to your writing style in general, I think you're doing a great thing by devoting so much of your time to this project! [[User:Avertist|Avertist]] 09:07, 23 Apr 2005 (PDT)

:Hi Avertis. I've really enjoyed learning from your articles. You're doing a great job.
:It's quite true that I do write opinions often. I try to make it clear that it is an opinion - which is why I write my name next to the article - so that a user can skip stuff I write if they don't want to read opinions, or so they can click on my name and read my background and understand my biases. You're also right in saying that using the first person doesn't always come off as scholarly. But when discussing Christianity, does it always have to be scholarly? Can experience or a testimony or even just a gut feeling be as worthwhile?
:I guess I disagree with you on one point. You say that this is an Encyclopedia. My hope is that this is not only an encyclopedia - if it were only an encyclopedia then why not just write in Wikipedia? I hope this is a place where people can write their views and opinions including their understanding of history. The way I am going to write about about the Reformation is probably going to be quite different than the way a Roman Catholic would write about the Reformation, or again different from the way an atheist would write about it. Although there are historical facts involved, I think there will usually be a slant in one direction or another. I think it is best to allow multiple articles on the history of the reformation (or any other topic). Perhaps there should be the main article that is dry and factual only, but I think it is fine also for there to be lots of other articles which tend to have a slant in one way or another. Sometimes that will be "preachy" but hopefully at least it will be open for dialogue, discussion and rebuttal. I also don't think making this a purely factual Encyclopedia is likely to help brng people to Christ. Maybe I'm wrong - I'd be interested to know if anyone has been significantly drawn to Jesus by looking up information about Christianity on wikipedia.
:If you look at the [[baptism]] page you'll see that I've written an article there which is clearly my own opinion. Obviously there will be people who have different opinions on this topic. I think it would be great if other people add links for new articles where they can explain their alternate views. Even the writer of Easton's Bible Dictionary is pretty biased (and this is supposed to be a dictionary which I would imagine shouldn't be biased). If you read [[Bible Dictionary: Baptism]] you'll see that there is clearly a particular point being pushed.
:What you say is important though. I shouldn't be writing things that turn people away from Christ - I guess what I want to do is write things that say what I believe and challenge people to think about what they believe - be it the same or different from my belief. Sometimes I fail at that task. If you let me know which comments I make in which articles that are specifically preachy and that you think would really offend people, let me know and I'll try and fix them up. Your brother in Christ, --Graham Grove

::Hi Graham, I worry that I may have overstated the problem in my first post. In the vast majority of your articles I don't see anything to worry about. But take, for instance, in the conclusion section of [[Church History (G.G.)]]. The rest of the article is mostly factual, but the conclusion is definitely composed mostly of opinion. It's an opinion I share completely, so I'm not objecting to the content of it, but it seems to me that the best place for that section would be in a separate article discussing your opinion on the unity of the Church, etc. And though it does not sound particularly preachy to me, I can almost guarantee you that some of my atheist/agnostic friends would read it as trying to "explain away" the "fact" that Christianity just "can't figure itself out," or something to that effect. Would minor reorganizations like this actually convert them? Probably not, but it would remove that small objection they may have.
::I completely agree that Wikichristian should be much more than a dry encyclopedia; my concern is that the division between fact and opinion might become blurred if we are not careful about this. [[User:Avertist|Avertist]] 00:26, 24 Apr 2005 (PDT)

:::Thanks Avertis. I think you were quite right - that was out of place in an article that probably should have remained neutral and factual. I've moved my conclusion into a separate article. Thanks for the advice. --Graham Grove, 24 April

::Hi Graham, I'm glad we agreed on this :). On a semi-related note, I thought more about what you said about wikipedia being the place for a "dry encyclopedia" and I thought that perhaps just to save time and effort, we could import articles en masse to wikichristian on historical and factual matters. Since wikipedia articles are generally pretty reliable, this way we'll be able to concentrate more of our efforts on dialogue and writing opinion articles (which I agree should be the core of wikichristian). Since you're one of the "main guys" here, I figured I'd ask your thoughts before I started doing it a bunch. But just so you can get an idea of what I mean, I imported the [[Arianism]] article from wikipedia on top of my old entry. As helpful as it is to me to write up my own short explanations of things, I think this would probably be more efficient and beneficial to wikichristian as a whole. I'm interested to know your thoughts. [[User:Avertist|Avertist]] 09:39, 24 Apr 2005 (PDT)

:::G'day Avertist. Go for it, transfer any articles you think a worth transferring. I've noticed sometimes that I've got to have my thinking hat on when reading articles from Wikipedia. For instance, in the article on Christianity, it has a list of famous Christians, one of whom is Joseph Smith. He's the founder of the Mormon religion, so I don't think it is accurate to say he is a famous Christian. Certainly he was a very influential man and a famous religious leader who has had a major impact in history, but I think most Christians would agree that he should be left off a list of famous Christians. In general though, like you've suggested, Wikipedia is pretty reliable and thorough, so go for it and transfer away. {{unsigned|Graham grove}}

==vandalism==
I have noticed that you have some users who are constantly editing the articles to say nasty things. They switch words, screw up spelling so that links do not work, and seem to be somewhat of an annoyance. Is there any way to stop this? It may be that this is the downside to a website like this where users can freely edit each other's work. [[User:JordanBarrett|JordanBarrett]] 13:42, 28 July 2005 (PDT)

:Yep, that tends to happen a lot. When Prab initially set up the site, that happened a lot and so we protected most of the pages so that only sysops could edit them. Then the vandalism stopped for a time and we unprotected most the pages. It seems to occur periodically again - and it only seems to be coming from one person. There probably is some way of stopping it, but I'm not an expert at wikis so I'm unfamiliar with how to stop it. I know the set up for [[Theopedia]] is that only people with user names can edit pages - perhaps that is the best way around the problem. You could talk to [[User:Prab|Prab]] about the problems if you want. --Graham

==hello from [[User:Phatcat68]]==
Hello Graham! I saw your message to check out this site and decided to do so. I went ahead and signed up as a user and added some churches that I know of in West Virginia. Thanks for the invitation! I will check out the pages you indicated as time permits! Thanks again! --[[User:Phatcat68|Phatcat68]] 20:59, 29 Sep 2005 (EDT)

:G'day and welcome Phatcat68. Thanks for adding to the directory of churches. Feel free to create and edit other articles if you want to. A while back we had a lot of trouble with vandalism (and the only way we could stop it and make the vandals go away was to protect all the pages). Hopefully most pages have now been unprotected and if we haven't unprotected them all it is only because of forgetfulness. If you find one that is protected, give me a yell, and I'll unprotect it. --[[User:Graham grove|Graham grove]] 22:28, 29 Sep 2005 (EDT)

==hello from [[User:SWD316]]==
Hi there Graham, Im SWD316. I created an account and user page! Thanks for the invintation here! I didn't see it until today. You put it in an archive on my Wikipedia page, coincidentally it was an archive of coversations I had with Phatcat68! Wierd. Anyways thanks for the invite! [[User:SWD316|<font color="FF0000">S</font><font color="EE0000">W</font><font color="DD0000">D</font><font color="CC0000">3</font><font color="BB0000">1</font><font color="AA0000">6]]</font> (yes I have a user page; it just looks like a red link!)

== Invitation to RWiki Yahoo Group ==

Dear Graham, I'd like to invite you to join the RWiki Yahoo Group at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rwiki/. Here's my preliminary description of the group:
:This group is an informal association of administrators of religiously-based wikis. Most of us are using MediaWiki, but administrators of other wiki engines are also invited to join.
We envision this as a low-volume list where administrators of religiously rooted wiki communities can trade tips and ideas, work together to fight spambots and vandals, and so on.

RWiki is sponsored by OrthodoxWiki (http://www.orthodoxwiki.org). It is open to wikis based in all "recognized" religious communities. This generally does not include NRMs or groups commonly described as "cults."

The archives of this list are kept private, and membership is restricted to those who genuinely qualify for this kind of group. Please apply with the name and URL of your wiki, as well as a description of your role in managing it.

Yours in Christ --John S. (User:FrJohn at http://orthodoxwiki.org)

== vandalism in general ==

Hi, I am the creator of the new Bible encyclopedia wiki based in the United States called, [http://wikible.org Wikible]. I noticed that this site is getting hammered all the time with spam. I was just curious what kind of spam protection you are using? I am using the Bad Behavior mediawiki extension at my site. Also, I've noticed this site is using a very old version of MediaWiki. perhaps a upgrade to the latest stable version, 1.5.6 (as of this post), would help curb that somewhat. As you know, spammers will try to use vulnerabilities in software to their advantage, and it would probably help to upgrade. Have a good day, and keep serving the savior! --[[User:Ymmotrojam|Ymmotrojam]] 04:51, 22 Jan 2006 (EST)

== Shorter URLs ==
Hi there. I recently responded to your [[Talk:Christian wikis#Thoughts from JJ|"open letter"]]. I'm starting to dig a little deeper into WikiChristian; I had been spending most of my time on Wikible.org. May I recommend [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Eliminating_index.php_from_the_url this nifty tip] to help clean up the wikichristian URLs? (I've also added this [[User_talk:Prab#Shorter_URLs|to Prab's talk page]] since he seems to be more technically-oriented.) --[[User:RockOfVictory|J. J.]] 18:21, 26 July 2006 (PDT)

== Still watching ==
I got your comment on Wikipedia. Even though I'm not spending as much time here, I still check the "Recent changes" page frenquently to get a pulse on what's happening with the wiki. --[[User:RockOfVictory|J. J.]] 10:13, 8 August 2006 (PDT)

==Thanks==

Hey, Graham! Thanks for your support of me being a sysop. I agree with you in that it would be a good thing for admins to have varying beliefs, as long as they all accept Christ as their Lord and Savior. Both you and Tom seem to want me to help out as an admin, yet nobody's promoted me yet; is this because you need permission from Prab first?

God bless!<br>[[User:P.B. Pilhet|P.B. Pilhet]] / [[User talk:P.B. Pilhet|Talk]] 22:37, 21 October 2006 (EST)

==Deletion of C.S. Lewis (overview)==

Hey, Graham! Sorry if I shouldn't have deleted that page. Do you want me to undelete it, or will you do that, or what? I just figured that, since the overview page was actually ''smaller'' than the main page, it would just be easier to have it all on one page. I thought that if the article ever ''did'' get bigger, then the overview page could simply be created again. Otherwise, with the article as it is, an overview page seems, at least to me, to just take up database space and clutter up the article. But either way I won't delete any more overview pages again, if you guys don't want me to :-)

God bless!<br>[[User:P.B. Pilhet|P.B. Pilhet]] / [[User talk:P.B. Pilhet|Talk]] 17:09, 22 October 2006 (EST)

:No problems. That's fine what you did. I think that your approach to delete the page was fine; we can always recreate it later if need be. I'd prefer you not to delete the overview articles, but I know that Tom has a different point of view. You do what you think is best. Keep in mind that there are a lot of different view points in Christianity, and at least the system with overviews allows for people to contribute either to the overview, or alternatively to create opinion style articles. --[[User:Graham grove|Graham grove]] 17:12, 22 October 2006 (EST)

::Okay, Graham! I don't really like the overview system, but I'll leave it alone to be on the safe side.

::God bless,<br>[[User:P.B. Pilhet|P.B. Pilhet]] / [[User talk:P.B. Pilhet|Talk]] 17:17, 22 October 2006 (EST)

== Vandalism ==

Hey Graham. I don't mind the accidental block :-)

It seems to be pretty simple to change move permissions. Whoever has access to the server will have a file called LocalSettings.php. In that file, there's a section that looks like this:

<code>$wgGroupPermissions['*' ]['createaccount'] = true;
$wgGroupPermissions['*' ]['read'] = true;
$wgGroupPermissions['*' ]['edit'] = true;
$wgGroupPermissions['*' ]['createpage'] = true;
$wgGroupPermissions['*' ]['createtalk'] = true;</code>

'''<code>$wgGroupPermissions['user' ]['move'] = true;</code>'''
<code>$wgGroupPermissions['user' ]['read'] = true;
$wgGroupPermissions['user' ]['edit'] = true;
$wgGroupPermissions['user' ]['createpage'] = true;
$wgGroupPermissions['user' ]['createtalk'] = true;
$wgGroupPermissions['user' ]['upload'] = true;
$wgGroupPermissions['user' ]['reupload'] = true;
$wgGroupPermissions['user' ]['reupload-shared'] = true;
$wgGroupPermissions['user' ]['minoredit'] = true;

$wgGroupPermissions['autoconfirmed']['autoconfirmed'] = true;

$wgGroupPermissions['bot' ]['bot'] = true;
$wgGroupPermissions['bot' ]['autoconfirmed'] = true;

$wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['block'] = true;
$wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['createaccount'] = true;
$wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['delete'] = true;
$wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['deletedhistory'] = true;
$wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['editinterface'] = true;
$wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['import'] = true;
$wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['importupload'] = true;
$wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['move'] = true;
$wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['patrol'] = true;
$wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['protect'] = true;
$wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['rollback'] = true;
$wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['upload'] = true;
$wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['reupload'] = true;
$wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['reupload-shared'] = true;
$wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['unwatchedpages'] = true;
$wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['autoconfirmed'] = true;

$wgGroupPermissions['bureaucrat']['userrights'] = true;</code>

I assume Prab is the only one with access to the server, so he just needs to change the bolded line from <code>= true;</code> to <code>= false;</code>. Since a lot of the vandalism is coming from the same people (I think), we might also want to install the [http://wiki.evernex.com/index.php?title=Installing_CheckUser Check User] special extension, which will allow us to see which IP addresses an editor is using, so we can effectively ban him/her. -- [[User:P.B. Pilhet|P.B. Pilhet]] / [[User talk:P.B. Pilhet|Talk]] 13:43, 29 November 2006 (EST)

:done :-) --[[User:Ymmotrojam|Tom]] 15:48, 29 November 2006 (EST)

::I noticed that you blocked Dan McQueen. Just thought I'd tell you that I had already blocked him earlier :-) [[User:P.B. Pilhet|P.B. Pilhet]] / [[User talk:P.B. Pilhet|Talk]] 17:13, 29 November 2006 (EST)

Thanks [[User:Ymmotrojam|Tom]] for the changes to the server and [[User:P.B. Pilhet|P.B. Pilhet]] for the suggestion. I see Graham noted that he is unable to some pages due to the spam blocker. So, it may be helpful to post what exactly is the error message so that we can look into it further. I noticed that it is not accepting page break <nowiki> br</nowiki>. To remove the html br command, just copy the content to note pad, use search replace to remove the <nowiki> html start tag br html end tag </nowiki>. (I was not able to use the open and close arrow!, hope you understand). Paste the content back in the wiki. --[[User:Prab|Prab]] 14:05, 21 December 2006 (EST)

== Help ==

I am wondering if you would like to help me with my with [http://editthis.info/wikireligion/Main_Page my wiki]? It is a fairly new wiki that does not have many articles and is in the state of being set up. --[[User:Sir James Paul|Sir James Paul]] 10:04, 2 February 2007 (EST)
:I do not care how active you are. --[[User:Sir James Paul|Sir James Paul]] 05:21, 4 February 2007 (EST)
*Graham grove, if there is ever a outbreak of vandalism here and you need some help feel free to contact me at meta wiki:) I would be happy to help you out. Have a nice week and god bless:) --[[User:Sir James Paul|Sir James Paul]] 07:45, 18 March 2007 (EST)

== Images ==

Yeah, I got Prab off on the right foot; he said he had to fix a few other things too, but he got it working. I also have noticed the thumbnail problem, but I haven't got a clue as to how to fix it. I was able to help him only because of some info I got off of the MediaWiki website. Maybe I'll go and search around there again for any info on the thumbnail problem. -- [[User:P.B. Pilhet|P.B. Pilhet]] / [[User talk:P.B. Pilhet|Talk]] 18:21, 30 June 2007 (EST)

Hi Graham,
I fixed the thumbnail problem. It is now working. To see an example, visit the [[Church history]] page. Thanks.

--[[User:Prab|Prab]] 10:23, 4 July 2007 (EST)

== Question ==

Hi there,

As a newly registered user, I was surprised to see that there was no set page of "rules" for users to follow. Consequently, I'm curious as to whether or not there is a need to have a certain ideological conformity in order to edit here, or whether people with certain beliefs are not allowed to edit.

I would also like to know what parts of the wiki need working on, so I may apply myself to them.

Thanks,
-[[User:Hojimachong|Hojimachong]] 12:16, 21 September 2007 (EST)

: Hi Hojima. Good questions. I've tried to answer them at your talk page - [[User talk:Hojimachong]]. Thanks for signing up. --[[User:Graham grove|Graham grove]] 16:38, 21 September 2007 (EST)

== Recent Vandalism ==

Hi Graham. Unfortunately, we've been getting hit with a lot of vandalism recently. I just finished reverting a bunch. It always reminds me of how fallen our world is. Anyway, I just wanted to let you know to please be careful while you're importing those new Bible verses; a vandal could theoretically sneek a couple of bad edits in between your imports, and we'd never see them because your work fills up all of the recent changes. So, before each new import, would you please remember to check the recent changes page for vandalism? Thanks! -- [[User:P.B. Pilhet|P.B. Pilhet]] / [[User talk:P.B. Pilhet|Talk]] 13:39, 28 October 2007 (EST)

== Re:Welcome ==

I am a Christian but I don't go to church because some people that go to church are hypocrites. Please don't be offended I'm just saying some people. I tried to correct a spelling in the [[Adelaide]] article but I could'nt because its another word for a chemist (person) starting with P. I can't say the word because your Spam Filter thinks its an External Link and blocks it. [[User:Kathleen.wright5|Kathleen.wright5]] 11:08, 5 November (UTC)

== Re:Priority Pages ==

I have just looked at the Priority Pages. The following are no longer Stubs:
*[[Bible]]
*[[Christianity]]
*[[Church history]]
As for the rest of the articles I'm not sure if they are Stubs. [[User:Kathleen.wright5|Kathleen.wright5]] 07:31, 6 November (UTC)

== Re:Page in Vietnamese ==

Do you know that there is a page in the [[Special:Deadendpages]] written in Vietnamese? Its title is Thanhkink ngoiloi giude. Could you find someone to translate it, otherwise it will be in the Special:Deadendpages forever. [[User:Kathleen.wright5|Kathleen.wright5]] 14:00, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

== WikiProject Christianity Invitation ==

I have put an invitation to WikiProject Christianity on your Wikipedia Talk Page. [[User:Kathleen.wright5|Kathleen.wright5]] 06:14, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

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== Video Embedding in WikiChristian ==
Hi Graham,

I am glad you liked the video embedding feature that I installed on WikiChristian server. I really felt strongly about it too and truly blessed listening some of the Melodious songs. We can also include sermons, gospel preachings, news videos etc. in addition songs. For any article on Wikichristian, we can reference a relevant YouTube video, if available. All is well with us. It is really fun having a little one in the family. I am sure you are having fun with your little son too! I will try to work on the ref. feature also so we can refence like in Wikipedia.

--[[User:Prab|Prab]] 01:12, 9 February 2008 (PST)

== Page references or Foot notes ==

Hi Graham,

I have installed the <nowiki><ref> </ref></nowiki> feature on WikiChristian as you requested. It basically creates an automatic numbered foot note whenever you use the tag <nowiki><ref></nowiki>. See it in action in [[sandbox]].

--[[User:Prab|Prab]] 02:04, 9 February 2008 (PST)

==New MediaWiki Extension (video-wiki)==
Hello,
My name is Lisa and I support all our Wiki partners here at Kaltura.
We have created a new open-source extension to the MediaWiki software, adding wiki- video and rich media functionality.
With this extension, any of your users can create collaborative videos, add images, videos and sounds to the collaborative videos created, or edit them using the full-featured online video editor (with full history and versioning similar to the text-wiki).
Please let me know if this is of interest and if you need any help in setting up the extension. I have included simple instructions below.
Cheers,
Lisa
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Simple steps for adding the video-wiki extension:
1. Get a Partner ID here: http://www.kaltura.com/index.php/cms/signup
2. Download the Kaltura MediaWiki extension here: sourceforge.net/projects/kaltura/
3. Add the extension to your site (installation instructions can be found at: http://www.kaltura.com/wiki/index.php/MediaWiki_Extension)

Lisa Bennett l Director of Public Relations & Marketing l (212) 981-3965 l lisa.bennett@kaltura.com l www.kaltura.com l www.kaltura.com/blog/

User talk:Etnoy

2008-02-18T18:57:17Z

Lishkee:

Welcome to my Talk page. Feel free to comment on my edits and proposals here. As usual, be nice and I will be in return.

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Hi Etony,
Velkommen til WikiChristian. Jeg er glad a se en Svenske her. Jeg bodde i Norge i noen aar og kan en del norsk. Haaper at du forstar norsken min. Jeg har fakisk jobbet som lege i Norge for en tid. Jeg er glad for hoere om dine interesser i musik. Om du er interesert, saa vil vi ha deg som en sysop her ogsaa. Mitt navn er Prab Tumpati og jeg hadde grunnlagt WikiChristian. Velkommen ombord.

-Prab Tumpati

For those that do not speak Norwegian,
Welcome to WikiChristian. I am gla to see a Swede here. I lived in Norway for a few years and can speak some Norwegian. I hope you understand my Norwegian. I have actually worked as an MD in Norway for awhile. I am glad to know about your interests in Music. If you are interested, we would very much like to have you as one of the sysops. My name is Prab Tumpati and I am the founder of WikiChristian. Wecome Omboard.

[[User:Prab|Prab]] March, 13,2005.

:I moved your comment to my talk page :) Thank you for the welcome, I'd be glad to help as a SysOp and I hope that I can contribute to the project. I can understand your Norwegian, that's no problem, but I prefer writing in English so that everybody understands. What I think for the project right now is the foundation of some basic policies, not so complete and complicated as Wikimedia's but more like guidelines for new users. [[User:Etnoy|Etnoy]] 00:27, 13 Mar 2005 (PST)

::Etnoy, good to have you here. It's always nice to see new users joining. I agree with you that I think we are in a formative stage. We need to develop some policies, vision, and goals for the coming year so that we can start to grow. Prab has been doing a great job in all this. I've been involved in several wiki projects, and this is by far the most friendly and cooperative I've seen. Anyway, have a good one. [[User:Cpark|Cpark]] 05:05, 13 Mar 2005 (PST)

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==New MediaWiki Extension (video-wiki)==
Hello,
My name is Lisa and I support all our Wiki partners here at Kaltura.
We have created a new open-source extension to the MediaWiki software, adding wiki- video and rich media functionality.
With this extension, any of your users can create collaborative videos, add images, videos and sounds to the collaborative videos created, or edit them using the full-featured online video editor (with full history and versioning similar to the text-wiki).
Please let me know if this is of interest and if you need any help in setting up the extension. I have included simple instructions below.
Cheers,
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---------------------------------
Simple steps for adding the video-wiki extension:
1. Get a Partner ID here: http://www.kaltura.com/index.php/cms/signup
2. Download the Kaltura MediaWiki extension here: sourceforge.net/projects/kaltura/
3. Add the extension to your site (installation instructions can be found at: http://www.kaltura.com/wiki/index.php/MediaWiki_Extension)

Lisa Bennett l Director of Public Relations & Marketing l (212) 981-3965 l lisa.bennett@kaltura.com l www.kaltura.com l www.kaltura.com/blog/

User talk:DavidCary

2008-02-18T18:56:25Z

Lishkee:

Hi David

I've made you a sysop so that you can unprotect and edit pages.

Thanks for contributing,

Graham

''Thank you.''
''Remind me every once in a while to use my powers for good, and not for evil, OK?''
''Ooh, what's this shiny new "Block user" button I see now when I look at [[User_talk:DavidCary]] ? I wonder what happens when I push it ... Doh!''
''--[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 15:30, 25 January 2007 (EST)''

==New MediaWiki Extension (video-wiki)==
Hello,
My name is Lisa and I support all our Wiki partners here at Kaltura.
We have created a new open-source extension to the MediaWiki software, adding wiki- video and rich media functionality.
With this extension, any of your users can create collaborative videos, add images, videos and sounds to the collaborative videos created, or edit them using the full-featured online video editor (with full history and versioning similar to the text-wiki).
Please let me know if this is of interest and if you need any help in setting up the extension. I have included simple instructions below.
Cheers,
Lisa
---------------------------------
Simple steps for adding the video-wiki extension:
1. Get a Partner ID here: http://www.kaltura.com/index.php/cms/signup
2. Download the Kaltura MediaWiki extension here: sourceforge.net/projects/kaltura/
3. Add the extension to your site (installation instructions can be found at: http://www.kaltura.com/wiki/index.php/MediaWiki_Extension)

Lisa Bennett l Director of Public Relations & Marketing l (212) 981-3965 l lisa.bennett@kaltura.com l www.kaltura.com l www.kaltura.com/blog/

User talk:Cpark

2008-02-18T18:55:15Z

Lishkee:

Hi Cpark,

I am wondering if we should try to change our domain name to WikiChristian.org and forward the wikichristian.com to that domain since it makes more sense as we want to keep it a non-commercial project. Please share your thoughts on that. We already have both the domains with us.

-Prab

Hi Cpark,

Thanks for the interest in this wiki project and for the wonderful blog you maintain. It sounds like you are a technical guy! I am a technical guy too (I sometimes wonder why am I in medicine!)

Graham and I had no choice but to protect the pages when we were overwhelmed by a vandal who was posting links to pornographic material with windows that keep opening on your face and destroying our hard work. I practically had to go to the database and remove the links from even the history and replace with *Censored* since they were so offensive.

However, as the project grows, we can unlock more and more pages and I appreciate you unlocking some of the pages already. Please keep the KJV Bible locked for now since we do not want people making subtle changes in the middle of a book as happened earlier. Thank you and welcome omboard as a member of Wikichristian [[sysop]]! May God be with you and bless you richly in all what you do!

Prab

----

Uh, you do realize that pages have do be editable by *anyone*, not just sysops for it to be considered a wiki, right?

--

Er...yeah (though a wiki is software, so it could be a wiki without being editable by anyone). I'd love to keep them editable by anyone. However, because of the vandalism that we're currently suffering we don't have that option. We're working on alternatives. If you wish to edit a page please create a user account and we'll be more than happy to grant you access to pages for legitimate edits. [[User:Cpark|Cpark]] 19:37, 7 Feb 2005 (PST)

--

from your own website:
Many wikis allow pages to be protected from editing; in most wikis, this is used only in extreme and rare cases. Protected pages on Wikipedia, for example, can be edited only by the administrators, who can also revoke the protection. Generally, such actions are considered as against the basic wiki philosophy, and, therefore, are usually avoided. At any given time, the English Wikipedia has perhaps thirty protected pages, out of hundreds of thousands.

The key phrase: "Generally, such actions are considered as against the basic wiki philosopy...".

--

Of course, however one must consider the posting of extremely off color material an "extreme" case. The targetted audience of this site would not want to see some of the photos that have been posted. Also, some of the text has mocked God and therefore might also be considered an "extreme" case. A pity that there are those out there that choose to vandalise this site so much that protected pages are no longer a "rare" occurance. Unfourtunetly we don't have the huge user base to revert articles that Wikipedia does. I'm sure they wouldn't mind if some vandals defaced every page they have referring to the Bible or Christianity. They'd probably just laugh at that vandal.

Irregardless, anyone who wishes to post need only create a username, post some type of testimony/SOMETHING in their user page...and then contact a sysop. At this point posting from an IP does nothing but raise suspicion. [[User:Cpark|Cpark]] 03:51, 8 Feb 2005 (PST)

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